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[br] So our Half-Dragon-Elven-Wizard can use Alter Self to become a templatted form because a separate allowance gives him access to a set that includes a templatted form and does not reiterate the no-templates restriction on that set. And elemental wildshape is a separate allowance that gives acces...

Not at all. You lump it in as a modifier to the cookie-making, when it's a modifier to using the whole kitchen.[br][br]You can't arbitrarily do that. I told you not to use the green oven, ever. If I explicitly allow you to use it under certain circumstances--great, I've changed my mind, you get to u...

To put it another way--[br][br]Let's say you like to bake chocolate-chip stuff. I let you use my kitchen, which has a white oven and a green oven.[br][br]I let you use the white oven, but I forbid you from making anything in the green oven. Ever. I also only let you make chocolate cookies in my kitc...

Something allows elemental templates becasue the resulting creature is in fact an elemental. [br][br]With all due respect, though--who cares?[br][br]I can't believe I'm arguing against this, seeing as how I'm playing a druid in your game, TA, but I still need some proof.[br][br]But who cares if the...

But the new allowance doesn't toss any old rules out the window, except where noted.[br][br]This part of Alter Self:[br][br][br] You cannot take the form of any creature with a template, even if that template doesn’t change the creature type or subtype. [br][br]Is still in full effect. There's nothi...

Ok, I'm still skeptical.[br][br]So it's possible to gain the ability to turn into an elemental without using a template, right?[br][br]Wildshape says "no templates," because Alter Self says "no templates."[br][br]Elemental Wildshape says "you can turn into an elemental, and ...

I'll go with Nybor's Stern Reproof and Nybor's Wrathful Castigation from Magic of Faerun.[br][br]Why are they so cool? Two saves.[br][br]You have to make a Fort saving throw against either of these enchantments, or you die. Then, if you make that, you have to make a Will saving throw or get stunned ...

But they're not necessarily being hypocrites at all.[br][br]You assume people start from the position "Killing other people is wrong."[br][br]They're starting from the position "Killing other people who don't kill innocents is wrong."[br][br]I know, I know--it looks like a simple...

da_chicken at [unixtime wrote:1072061881[/unixtime]]Key word: implies. Not equals.

Then the alignment system is based on nothing more than implications and hints? That's not exactly a strong point for it.

You know what? It's like the PHB section on alignment (p. 104) wants to make you mad. It's actually trying to piss you off to the point where you want to take it outside and assault it.[br][br]So, " 'law' implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability?" Waitaminute...

I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not you can be a cleric and noncleric at the same time, at least this late at night.[br][br]But I will say that this:[br][br][br] If the contemplative did not previously belong to a divine spellcasting class, she gains the ability to cast divine ...