The Gaming Den

Mearls is on record as hating world building, hence Points of Light.

The amusing thing about the pit fighter is that it's much better in the hands of a melee cleric who fights with Wis and weapons already. As I recall the Essentials cleric has a bunch of Wis powers that use weapons that you can pit fighter through. It's a recurring theme in this edition, where the pa...

The amusing thing about tanks v DPS in wow is that a DPS will fucking die if they pull aggro, full stop. 4e strikers are fairly durable due to padded sumo and interrupts, but the same things mean you can't burn your cooldowns to kill enemies before they escape and raise the alarm. It's less an MMO b...

Gnome is a WoW race, which is the silly part of this whole thing. The WoW echoes are reminiscent of people not really understanding wow either, because WoW characters have much more out of combat utility than 4e characters. Mages can just teleport to cities wherever they feel like it. Death knights ...

Honestly I feel wow-looking races would have been fine if the game was good. It's just kind of a criticism tacked onto the failures of mechanics.

Tieflings get bonus credit for being good as Cha locks but fluffed as Conlocks.

Meanwhile the fey eladrin are shit warlocks despite warlock being nominally tied to fey.

It's really amazing how hard they had to try to fuck this up.

I am fairly certain this edition was designed to be purchased en masse by people on the WotC CharOp boards - lots of buying splatbooks to find the One True Feat that will make you not worthless.

The weirdest part of all of this is that they could have avoided this problem entirely by letting you pick 2 stats. The promotional materials promised any race, any class, but this was of course complete bullshit undermined by the game mechanics. The racial powers are enough to differentiate the rac...

Crowd control is a hell of a lot more effective than healing, because you just don't take the damage.

tussock wrote: Next up, making characters, without the online character creator!

If Dante were still writing this would be a layer of hell.

White Raven ALSO let you fantasize about being a badass leader of men whose mastery of tactics empowered the team and let you play a master strategist. Sure, nobody cared about the flavor of White Raven but people did like the idea of 4e warlords.

Eh, looking at this more from a AD&D perspective, bit old fashioned me, when I think about a fighter but with magic stuff, my first thought would be the Paladin. Couldn't you just give the Paladin more abilities to make it competitive with wizardy types, keep the concept, just expand and improv...

They actually almost included fluff about the crusader looking for a holy land until they realized what an awful idea that was.

This oughta be good. As I remember you even had stuff like black people being at King Arthur's round table (Sir Pellinore off the top of my head, but maybe I'm missing somebody). I don't remember people making a big deal out of foreign fighting styles - I think those guys just got labeled "knig...

It's weird, I can touch things while holding a knife or sword in one hand, and I'm not even a trained adventurer!

I foresee a lot of arguments about skills as initiative.

https://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-a ... al-review/

4e PHB review I wrote. I think it hits a lot of the "$e" meme stuff we've discussed.

The weirdest part to me about the entire 4e experiment isn't the incredibly wrongheaded decisions, it's the amazing levels of hubris with which those decisions were made. It would be one thing to just barrel ahead with hacked together monsters with guestimated numbers and powers pulled out of the a...

I'm gonna disagree and say the game is actually bad, mostly due to poor balancing and garbage companion characters.

Again.

What the fuck were were expecting? This is Paizo we're talking about, not a company known for insightful design and quality products.

Warrior nerfed all the 3.0 prestige classes that were any good. You got Karmic Strike, Shock Trooper, and Frenzied Berserker I guess?

Maybe bad examples, but we could use Serpent Kingdoms instead. Whatever.

RobbyPants wrote:

CapnTthePirateG wrote: Certainly there have been books that were a net bad for the edition, such as Complete Warrior, Complete Mage, or Complete Psionic.

It’s a side note, but what makes you put Complete Mage in the same category?

Did you not read the advice section?

The one thing that sucks about the Dragon Prince is that there aren't more episodes.

That's...really about it.

If you claim that it's in any way "good" that few books are coming out, you are equally claiming that the books that are coming out add negative value. That's the only way that position could make any sense. If the books written for an edition add negative value, that edition is bad. Like...

"goon squad" style invasion Interesting you mention that, because (and I've mentioned this before) the SA goon squad is still deep in the 4e kool-aid, and it's rather hilarious to watch them desperately slam 5e/PF2 with blatantly dumb shit. There's a guy in their 5e thread pointing out th...

The stated reason for the lack of 5e content is that the devs know they can't actually put out a lot of content and have it be quality. Look at the multiclassing system - you need to go through every class in the game and come up with special snowflake interactions to avoid heavy armor wizards, whic...