The Shadowrun Situation

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:03 am

That's not in game graphics up there.
That's a Promotional Picture done by the Artist using the Handle Flyingdebris.

Also: yes, many people are afraid of bigger changes/cancelations . .

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:07 am

Very interesting. Thank you for the heads up.

If the promo art isn't reflective of the art aesthetic of the game I'm rather worried about the professional effort/state of the game.

I know a lot of shit is artist rendering for promo stuff, but even then your art *should* be a reflection of the artistic intent of the game. The footage we saw a few years back was a different art style than the promo.

Meh. I'm splitting hairs I guess. But if we can't gather much from the promo release about the game, it's a cock tease and not much more. We'll see.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:19 am

Yeah.
Hopefully the subtitle won't be ONLINE or anything like that.
And hopefully the Release-Date will in the first half of this decade <.<

Fuchs · Post by **Fuchs** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:43 am

Online wouldn't be bad. Fighting other players would be great.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:41 am

Yeah, but online only would suck ass . .

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:45 pm

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/31/new-m ... exclusive/
YES YES YES!

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:02 pm

Stahlseele wrote:Yeah.
Hopefully the subtitle won't be ONLINE or anything like that.
And hopefully the Release-Date will in the first half of this decade <.<

Heh. You called it. Subtitle ONLINE.

So. What's the over/under that it'll be subscription or microtransaction based?

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:41 pm

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/31/meet- ... -mech-sim/
Fucking Free To Play MMO like World of Tanks Bullshit it seems -.-

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:15 pm

Stahlseele wrote:http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/31/meet- ... -mech-sim/
Fucking Free To Play MMO like World of Tanks Bullshit it seems -.-

I can't wait to see how they monetize this. Should be epic levels of failure.

Juton · Post by **Juton** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:39 pm

I'm just stopping by to give Stahlseele props/condolences in calling the subtitle to the new Mechwarrior game.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:59 pm

Thank you . .

right now it looks kinda like a World of Tanks Clone with Mechs . .

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:32 am

Stahlseele wrote:Thank you . .

right now it looks kinda like a World of Tanks Clone with Mechs . .

Nothing wrong with that if its not P2W. If it is its just a distraction between good multiplayer games.

A Man In Black · Post by **A Man In Black** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:42 am

Well, World of Tanks is pretty much pay to win. Every third new pay tank is just better than every other tank in the same class. Plus, the tanks are fantastically expensive. $20 for a new tank? Fuck that sideways.

Anyway I never really did get the appeal of Mechwarrior. It was a slow, awkward first-person shooter that was all about minmaxed alphastrike sniping. Now it is going to be a slow, awkward pay-to-win class-based first-person shooter made by the lowest bidder. Why in the world would I want to play that?

Juton · Post by **Juton** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:32 pm

A Man In Black wrote:Well, World of Tanks is pretty much pay to win. Every third new pay tank is just better than every other tank in the same class. Plus, the tanks are fantastically expensive. $20 for a new tank? Fuck that sideways.

That's sad bullshit. Every pay tank so far has been inferior to a regular (ie free) tank, except in the money you can make with it. The Lowe is weaker than the King Tiger, the Type 59 is about the same as the T-44 and much weaker than the Panther II or M-26. The real difference is that you earn twice as much or more in pay tanks, that really speeds up grinding.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:56 pm

Don't forget Premium Ammo though.
That shit blasts through armor as if it were paper.

Juton · Post by **Juton** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:05 pm

No one uses that in regular matches though, and if you are fighting in a clan war fight the clan should be covering your expenses.

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:44 am

That pic looks like a Borderlands style ripoff to me... And besides, I'm wondering about the story a lot. Got a little into Battletech, because certain people keep bombing me with info on it. And they're as much annoyed by CGL as I am about Shadowrun.

raben-aas · Post by **raben-aas** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:35 am

May I suggest you/we open a new thread for Mechwarrior stuff? As interesting as all of this is, it's hardly about "The Shadowrun situation".

Thx!

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Probably for the better.
And we are spamming the video game thread too . .

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:10 am

Back on the SR video game. There's some video here.

A Man In Black · Post by **A Man In Black** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:02 am

Blade wrote:Back on the SR video game. There's some video here.

They're making in-browser Fallout. Huh.

And unless my German completely fails me (and it isn't very good so it might), they're saying that the Matrix and deckers currently aren't planned, and magic is currently planned to be limited to combat magic or something? I dunno, limited German plus game jargon equals fgsfds.

I'm gonna let Stahlsteele get it from here, since he actually speaks German and plays Shadowrun.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:05 am

And Jagged Alliance too.
And the devs, so far, are pretty nice.
And, if you can afford it, you can bribe them . .
for just 10k € i could have gotten Hamburg as a playable location and me as Lofwyr . .

Yeah, Matrix, right now, won't be in. Because of the "Guys, the Decker wants to try something, go get Pizza in the mean time" problem.
Same for Magic. And riggers, right now, are only drone riggers, because vehicles won't fit into the game as it is.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:17 pm

From what I got, there will be hacking (and even technomancers) but it won't be a minigame.
I guess it'll be closer to "click the hack button, click the camera/drone/door you want to hack, see the result".

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:17 pm

it will be pretty much like combat.
your software are your weapons, the hardware of the system you want to hack is it's armament.

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:50 pm

Stahlseele wrote:And Jagged Alliance too.
And the devs, so far, are pretty nice.
And, if you can afford it, you can bribe them . .
for just 10k € i could have gotten Hamburg as a playable location and me as Lofwyr . .

Yeah, Matrix, right now, won't be in. Because of the "Guys, the Decker wants to try something, go get Pizza in the mean time" problem.
Same for Magic. And riggers, right now, are only drone riggers, because vehicles won't fit into the game as it is.

Considering that they did matrix shit back in the Sega Genesis days, I'm unimpressed. Yeah, that was single player, but still... Couldn't we have advanced a little in the last 20 years of game design?

SR4 probably has the best solution to hackers conceptually with wifi hacking and AR & shit, but yeah... bad game design if it's just going to be clicking the hack button and clicking the target camera or turret or whatever.