Zero Buzz on 5E...Is It Dead Out The Gate?
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Didn't we have a thread about M:tG as a D&D setting a while back?
Keys to the Contract: A crossover between Puella Magi Madoka Magica and Kingdom Hearts.
RadiantPhoenix wrote:The D&D wizard is a work of fiction that has a completely unrealistic expectation of "uses a book".TheFlatline wrote:Legolas/Robin Hood are myths that have completely unrealistic expectation of "uses a bow".
hyzmarca wrote:Well, Mario Mario comes from a blue collar background. He was a carpenter first, working at a construction site. Then a plumber. Then a demolitionist. Also, I'm not sure how strict Mushroom Kingdom's medical licensing requirements are. I don't think his MD is valid in New York.
"Hmm, I have a cash cow on one side, and a group that already fucked up more than one a lucrative line on the other. Should I combine them?"
Vebyast wrote:Here's a fun target for Major Creation: hydrazine. One casting every six seconds at CL9 gives you a bit more than 40 liters per second, which is comparable to the flow rates of some small, but serious, rocket engines. Six items running at full blast through a well-engineered engine will put you, and something like 50 tons of cargo, into space. Alternatively, if you thrust sideways, you will briefly be a fireball screaming across the sky at mach 14 before you melt from atmospheric friction.
No. Bad Hammer. What children would you raise to not get blood in their ears at the mention of Bargle?Heaven's Thunder Hammer wrote:Man this is so depressing. I was honestly (and naively) hopeful that D&D 5E would be a game that I'd be introducing to my kids when they're old enough to play.
At this rate, I'm just going to wait another 5 years for Pathfinder 2E (which will eventually come out right?) or D&D 6E if 5E doesn't kill D&D for good.
That said, I have loads of other RPGs.
Start them out with the basic red box so they can appreciate improvements when you skip ahead to 3e and then other systems.
No what you do is fire the entire D&D team and replace them with second stringers from the MtG department, even if they knew literally nothing about TTRPGs they'd probably do a better job then the current jokers.fectin wrote:"Hmm, I have a cash cow on one side, and a group that already fucked up more than one a lucrative line on the other. Should I combine them?"
I'm less interested in the rules; when they said their intention was to make one version of D&D that would be everything to everyone, they were pretty much doomed to failure, no matter who was writing it.
I'm more interested in their business model. Will they go with the splatbook treadmill, or will they expand the subscription-based internet model from 4E? Already they've stirred some discussion with the pricing on the core books ("Kids pay that much for an Xbox game!" -- some executive somewhere) and contracting out adventure modules.
I'm more interested in their business model. Will they go with the splatbook treadmill, or will they expand the subscription-based internet model from 4E? Already they've stirred some discussion with the pricing on the core books ("Kids pay that much for an Xbox game!" -- some executive somewhere) and contracting out adventure modules.
Didn't they bring in one of the mtg math guys to write early drafts of tob and 4e before he ultimately quit and went back to mtg over "creative differences" or some such.
Basically MTG tried to help once, had their good ideas corrupted by stupid and then washed their hands of it. Someone with more actual knowledge than me can probably elaborate a lot on that.
Basically MTG tried to help once, had their good ideas corrupted by stupid and then washed their hands of it. Someone with more actual knowledge than me can probably elaborate a lot on that.
The WotC article about why they haven't done a MtG D&D setting is a load of bull. They have to be aware that a large part of their D&D audience is also part of their MtG audience, they have to be aware of the fan attempts to make a D&D setting based on Magic on their own damned message board, and it's not like MtG hasn't experimented with D&D style stuff, Zendikar was basically all about that.
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You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
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Hopefully the same way you fix a dog.
virgil wrote:Lovecraft didn't later add a love triangle between Dagon, Chtulhu, & the Colour-Out-of-Space; only to have it broken up through cyber-bullying by the King in Yellow.
FrankTrollman wrote:If your enemy is fucking Gravity, are you helping or hindering it by putting things on high shelves? I don't fucking know! That's not even a thing. Your enemy can't be Gravity, because that's stupid.
Considering how self-consciously retro and authentic they're trying to be with the corebook style and the weakness of their digital department, I expect business as usual and a lot of dead trees.hogarth wrote:I'm more interested in their business model. Will they go with the splatbook treadmill, or will they expand the subscription-based internet model from 4E? Already they've stirred some discussion with the pricing on the core books ("Kids pay that much for an Xbox game!" -- some executive somewhere) and contracting out adventure modules.
I'm thinking we're going to have a fair number of rehashed old school adventures produced in house (e.g. "Revenge of the Bride of the Tomb of Horrors"). If the 4e business cycle is anything to judge by, they may squeeze out core supplements (Player's Handbook 14, MSRP $49.98) until their mechanics crumble under the weight of it all.
https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/4 ... 24/photo/1
Apparently its not totally vaporware. Mearls posted a shot from the warlock chapter of the PHB.
My favorite part? The first official look at the book and its a roll percentile random effect chart. From squinting it looks like some of the effects are "You cast ~~~ as a ~level spell on yourself". 07-08 looks like it might say fireball centered on yourself.
So.... return of crit fumbles?
Apparently its not totally vaporware. Mearls posted a shot from the warlock chapter of the PHB.
My favorite part? The first official look at the book and its a roll percentile random effect chart. From squinting it looks like some of the effects are "You cast ~~~ as a ~level spell on yourself". 07-08 looks like it might say fireball centered on yourself.
So.... return of crit fumbles?
Is Byron Hall a developer over there now?My favorite part? The first official look at the book and its a roll percentile random effect chart. From squinting it looks like some of the effects are "You cast ~~~ as a ~level spell on yourself". 07-08 looks like it might say fireball centered on yourself.
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I think the DMG1 random prostitute table was more liked than this one. Anyway, time for some extreme OCR:
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09 - 10 You cast magic missile as a Xth level spell.
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15 - 16 For the next minute, you regain X hit points at the start of your turn.
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57 - 58 Your alignment changes to a randomly determined one ...
59 - 60 You regain your lowest level expended spell slot.
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67 - 68 You cast polymorph on yourself
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79 - 80 Illusory butterflies ...
I think the DMG1 random prostitute table was more liked than this one. Anyway, time for some extreme OCR:
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09 - 10 You cast magic missile as a Xth level spell.
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15 - 16 For the next minute, you regain X hit points at the start of your turn.
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57 - 58 Your alignment changes to a randomly determined one ...
59 - 60 You regain your lowest level expended spell slot.
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67 - 68 You cast polymorph on yourself
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79 - 80 Illusory butterflies ...
@ @ Nockermensch
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Mord wrote:Chromatic Wolves are massively under-CRed. Its "Dood to stone" spell-like is a TPK waiting to happen if you run into it before anyone in the party has Dance of Sack or Shield of Farts.
You can definitely see the influence of Pathfinder. Those pages would fit into any Pathfinder book.
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FrankTrollman wrote:If your enemy is fucking Gravity, are you helping or hindering it by putting things on high shelves? I don't fucking know! That's not even a thing. Your enemy can't be Gravity, because that's stupid.
Is that table for real? As in, 5E? The neckbeard is strong with this one...nockermensch wrote:...
09 - 10 You cast magic missile as a Xth level spell.
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15 - 16 For the next minute, you regain X hit points at the start of your turn.
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57 - 58 Your alignment changes to a randomly determined one ...
59 - 60 You regain your lowest level expended spell slot.
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67 - 68 You cast polymorph on yourself
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79 - 80 Illusory butterflies ...
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And that's ALL I AM READING because this shit is giving me a headache and isn't very interesting.With a pseudodragon curled on his shoulder, a young elf in golden robes smiles warmly, weaving a magical charm into his honeyed words and bending the palace sentinel to his will.
As flames spring to life in her hands, a wizened human whispers the secret name of her demonic patron, infusing her spell with fiendish magic.
Shifting his gaze between a battered tome and the odd alignment of the stars overhead, a wild-eyed tielfling chanes(sp?) the mystic ritual that will open a doorway to a distant world.
Warlocks are seekers of the knowledge that lie(?) hidden in the fabric of the multiverse. Through pacts made with mysterious beings of great magical power, warlocks unlock magical effect both subtle and spectacular. Drawing on the ancient knowledge of beings such as fey nobles, demons, devils, hags, and alien entities of the Far Realm, warlocks piece together ??? ??? to bolster their own power.
SWORN AND BEHOLDEN
A warlock is defined by a pact with an otherworldly being. Sometimes the relationship between warlock and patron is like that of a cleric and a deity, though the beings that serve as patrons for warlocks are not gods. A warlock might lead a cult dedicated to a demon prince, an archdevil, or an utterly alien entity -- beings not typically served by clerics. More often, though, the arrangement is similar to that between a master and an apprentice. The warlock learns and grows in power at the cost of occasional services performed on the patron's behalf.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
What? Are you telling me you don't like Warlock that has apparently gone trick or treating?deanruel87 wrote:That art is terrible
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Just a heads up... Your post is pregnant... When you miss that many periods it's just a given.
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The divine in me says the divine in you should go fuck itself.
I just noticed how unnatural the position of that arm is. Thumb out, arm in line with shoulders, and heel of the staff(?) in from of her body. It's not comfortable and there is little reason to be in it.Leress wrote:What? Are you telling me you don't like Warlock that has apparently gone trick or treating?deanruel87 wrote:That art is terrible
It is a very grognardy chart, except that most results are positive. The oldschool chart would have summoned Orcus or something.
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If he was going to show us only one thing, it would make sense for him to choose whatever he thinks is the most impressive...so chances are, the rest of the art is even worse than that.
Also: I just noticed the sticky note that says "Never give up." Is giving up something he considers so often that he has to remind himself not to do it?
Also: I just noticed the sticky note that says "Never give up." Is giving up something he considers so often that he has to remind himself not to do it?
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This is my inner armchair psychologist talking, but that's a general basic self-help technique associated with people fighting personal insecurities that will also make them come off as very egotistical/sociopathic.Night Goat wrote:Also: I just noticed the sticky note that says "Never give up." Is giving up something he considers so often that he has to remind himself not to do it?
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did Jackie Chan and Lucy Liu have a baby? That looks nothing like a warlock and more like just a chinese wizard. I am sorry, I was unaware China was in D&D-world, but since all the art was done in china, maybe there wont be anything but asian looking depictions in the whole book?
i dont mind anime style art, but it is not what i think of when i think D&D unless they are promoting garbage disposal wold where all the leftovers from FR and GH are thrown in and mixed like a bad version of, well they were bad too; Planescape or Spelljammer
i dont mind anime style art, but it is not what i think of when i think D&D unless they are promoting garbage disposal wold where all the leftovers from FR and GH are thrown in and mixed like a bad version of, well they were bad too; Planescape or Spelljammer
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good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
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