Election 2016

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:54 pm

Ancient History wrote:http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a3 ... ve-policy/

I'm not sure what you're about ogre with the bimbo line. That interview was remarkable for being Ivanka being sheltered in her bubble. To accuse an interviewer of lying and calling the interview right after threatening to cut it based upon some non hardball questions. Wow.

DSMatticus · Post by **DSMatticus** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:37 pm

Ogre's post is unrelated. He's referring to the leaked Colin Powell emails, in which Powell had something to say about Bill Clinton "dicking bimbos" (yes, his words). Though incidentally I can't help but feel like it'd also make a nice "accidentally honest" title for Trump's maternity leave plans. Woefully inadequate benefits aimed at encouraging women (and women only) to abandon their careers and become stay-at-home moms? It doesn't exactly paint a flattering picture of what Trump thinks of women, does it?

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:42 pm

Ancient History wrote:http://www.vox.com/2016/9/13/12901062/t ... ll-frontal

Ahh Tio Tomas : (

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:55 pm

DSMatticus wrote:Ogre's post is unrelated. He's referring to the leaked Colin Powell emails, in which Powell had something to say about Bill Clinton "dicking bimbos" (yes, his words). Though incidentally I can't help but feel like it'd also make a nice "accidentally honest" title for Trump's maternity leave plans. Woefully inadequate benefits aimed at encouraging women (and women only) to abandon their careers and become stay-at-home moms? It doesn't exactly paint a flattering picture of what Trump thinks of women, does it?

Ah! That makes more sense. I've been extra busy this week and my news intake has been more limited.

I meant to add to the Ivanka trump interview that it was a bit damning for me that she just laughed at a clear and serious problem raised for paternity leave (i.e. That there isn't any).

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:46 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christoph ... 29434.html

A gentle reminder that Mike Pence is an asshole that claims Christianity as an excuse for being an asshole, and that Mike Pence does not understand the English language.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:28 pm

Is that real?!

Shiritai · Post by **Shiritai** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:55 am

Maj wrote:Is that real?!

Unlabeled satire.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:03 am

Is it? Shit, I'm sorry. This election has me willing to believe any shit attributed to coming out of their mouths.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:46 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... test-vote/

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:15 am

Can't sleep.

https://storify.com/hriefs/tannenbaumr- ... foundation

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:15 pm

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/prieb ... le/2602126

I whole-heartedly support the GOP self-purge. Let only the True Scotsmen remain!

Wiseman · Post by **Wiseman** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:26 pm

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/trump-u ... ts/#disqus

Just when you thought things couldn't get any stupider...

Mechalich · Post by **Mechalich** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:57 am

So, the 1st debate is over. Quick reaction seems to have Clinton solidly winning. Going forward impact remains the key question, but Trump seems to have gone into 'blatantly sexist and racist' mode at several points during the debate, which ought to help Clinton overall. Clinton and moderator Lester Holt both called out Trump on some of his more regular lies, which is likely to shape the media narrative.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:04 am

First debate went about as you might expect. The fact-checkers online were tearing it apart in real time, but I doubt it cost Trump any of his core support. Of course, at this point I'm not sure what could do that. The only real surprise was the smug moment were Trump basically admitted he didn't pay any federal income taxes.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:06 am

"It's inappropriate, and it's not nice" - best laugh line of the night.

nockermensch · Post by **nockermensch** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: the debate.

We're entering some kind of post-factual era, as despite Hillary "winning", the race seemingly became closer.

The world is split into echo-chambers right now, and Reality has became secondary. I already discussed with Brazilians who said that Reagan saved American economy while FDR tried to destroy it. They directed me to mises.org links that "prove" this. It's incredibly depressing, and I keep seeing the same thing happening on other countries.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:34 pm

538 isn't magically up to the minute. The post-debate polls haven't happened yet, and then they have to be tabulated, released, and incorporated into 538's model. It takes a few days.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:55 pm

Nate Silver explicitly said he expects to see a bump for Hillary in a couple of days. As noted, the 538 results are a few days behind.

Now, their articles are put out frequently, so you can get commentary from the editors a bit earlier.

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:22 pm

nockermensch wrote:Re: the debate.

We're entering some kind of post-factual era, as despite Hillary "winning", the race seemingly became closer.

The world is split into echo-chambers right now, and Reality has became secondary. I already discussed with Brazilians who said that Reagan saved American economy while FDR tried to destroy it. They directed me to mises.org links that "prove" this. It's incredibly depressing, and I keep seeing the same thing happening on other countries.

538 wrote:As a warning, you should give the debate five to seven days to be fully reflected in FiveThirtyEight’s forecasts. It will take a couple of days before reliable, post-debate polls are released, and then another couple of days before the model recognizes them to be part of a trend instead of potential outliers.

Mask_De_H · Post by **Mask_De_H** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:27 pm

Ancient History wrote:First debate went about as you might expect. The fact-checkers online were tearing it apart in real time, but I doubt it cost Trump any of his core support. Of course, at this point I'm not sure what could do that.

Caught in bed with a live boy or a dead Hilary.

Mechalich · Post by **Mechalich** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:18 pm

Trump's core support is probably untouchable, but there's a surprising number of available voters that could be recruited to Clinton - especially from the disaffected under-35s who have so far been claiming they'll support Gary Johnson or Jill Stein.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:20 am

https://www.facebook.com/RoaStzE/videos ... 228616639/

SlyJohnny · Post by **SlyJohnny** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:58 pm

Have you guys seen this idiocy going around about Julian Assange releasing a leak that proves the debate moderator gave Hillary all the questions in advance so she could prepare? There is no such leak to be found, but that's not stopping these fuckwits from sharing it all over Facebook.

Honestly, what pisses me off the most is that our political discourse is even more stupid lately, so I can't default to rolling my eyes with an indulgent smile at our American cousins. You're not going to elect Trump, but we DID wind up with Theresa Fucking May as our prime minister, the woman who thinks Brexit was a good idea and has undertaken so much tampering with "independent" reports critical of both Snoopers Charter proposals and the inefficacy of punitive laws targeting illegal drug use, that she actually qualifies for co-authorial credit. So if you sanely and soberly hold your noses and vote for Clinton while we settle in for 5 more years of jingoistic bullshit sometime in 2020, we're going to look like a bunch of assholes.

erik · Post by **erik** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:34 pm

SlyJohnny wrote:we DID wind up with Theresa Fucking May as our prime minister, the woman who thinks Brexit was a good idea

I thought much hay was made of that she was opposed to Brexit and as PM she was going to abide by the vote despite her own position.

sendaz · Post by **sendaz** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:49 pm

It is a bit of a sticky point as Cameron's former Director of Communication has put out in a book about how Cameron was not as supported by May as many thought and how she was possibly acting as an 'enemy agent' to undermine the Pro-Remain side from within.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... arty-split

Of course this has started a bit of a row with May supporters.