Adventure games are written with the dick (RPGs by women)

Thaluikhain · Post by **Thaluikhain** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:27 am

Guts wrote:Mask_De_H, what's a Carrie situation?

I'm guessing the bucket of blood at the prom thing from the 70s movie, but apparently they've been a few adaptations of the same book.

Iduno · Post by **Iduno** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:42 pm

Thaluikhain wrote:
Guts wrote:Mask_De_H, what's a Carrie situation?
I'm guessing the bucket of blood at the prom thing from the 70s movie, but apparently they've been a few adaptations of the same book.

Could also be the part where she lost control of her powers because of the blood thing, and everyone died when she burned down the school.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:29 am

Don't forget, Koumei wrote an RPG years ago about schoolgirls. It's solid.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:23 am

Yeah, I mentioned Bakahatsu High (tho not by name). I was also thinking of Dungeon Crusade.

00dani · Post by **00dani** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:06 am

This thread's subject line is… weird, especially when trans people are being discussed. Huh.

Grek · Post by **Grek** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:15 am

Prak is weird, especially when trans people are being discussed.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:36 pm

Oh look, it's someone's sock puppet.

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:44 pm

I doubt it. Everyone who posts has to have a first post; I doubt most people would sit on their sock puppet account for two years (rather than registering a new one). Personally, from the title, I thought it sounded like someone trying to argue that only men can make good adventure games. Of course, knowing it was by Prak, I didn't REALLY think that was the intent, but yeah - I'm not surprised people are clicking on this with the expectation that gamer guys are continuing to be horrible people online.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:29 pm

I question the idea that anyone has made a decent adventure game tbh fam.

00dani · Post by **00dani** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:38 pm

deaddmwalking wrote:I'm not surprised people are clicking on this with the expectation that gamer guys are continuing to be horrible people online.

I was basically expecting discussion of RPGs made by women, with a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism at the beginning, which is pretty much exactly what I got. The really weird part was getting a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism from another trans person, which baffled me enough to finally post after lurking here for years.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:10 am

Ever consider you might be an oversensitive Berkshire hunt?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:21 am

Grek wrote:Prak is weird, especially when trans people are being discussed.

Honestly, I can't argue with this summation.

00dani wrote:
deaddmwalking wrote:I'm not surprised people are clicking on this with the expectation that gamer guys are continuing to be horrible people online.
I was basically expecting discussion of RPGs made by women, with a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism at the beginning, which is pretty much exactly what I got. The really weird part was getting a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism from another trans person, which baffled me enough to finally post after lurking here for years.

Cissexism isn't a thing, just like reverse racism isn't a thing. You can be prejudiced against cis or white people, but they created the institutions that benefit them and oppress non-cis/white people, thus -isms like sexism and racism don't apply.

edit: also metonymy, rhetoric, limitations of language, etc etc.

00dani · Post by **00dani** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:57 am

Prak wrote:Cissexism isn't a thing, just like reverse racism isn't a thing. You can be prejudiced against cis or white people, but they created the institutions that benefit them and oppress non-cis/white people, thus -isms like sexism and racism don't apply.

No, no, cissexism isn't prejudice against cis people! It refers to behaviours that normalise and privilege cis people over trans people, similarly to transphobia/transmisia but with a greater emphasis on the subconscious and casual behaviours that promote cisness. It could also be called cisnormativity.

So, y'know, a thread title criticising the dominance of men in writing tabletop RPGs, that happens to equate being male with having particular genitals, would be cissexist. Which is what confused me so much about this thread.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:03 am

Prak wrote:Cissexism isn't a thing, just like reverse racism isn't a thing. You can be prejudiced against cis or white people, but they created the institutions that benefit them and oppress non-cis/white people, thus -isms like sexism and racism don't apply.

Please make your arguments to the dictionary.

Thaluikhain · Post by **Thaluikhain** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:20 am

I would point out early 40s Japan as an example of racism against white people, with the caveat that few forum members are currently living in early 40s Japan.

Leress · Post by **Leress** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:21 am

00dani wrote:
I was basically expecting discussion of RPGs made by women, with a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism at the beginning, which is pretty much exactly what I got. The really weird part was getting a frustrating dose of pointless cissexism from another trans person, which baffled me enough to finally post after lurking here for years.

That's been Prak MO for a while or a least some variation of it.

Prak wrote: Cissexism isn't a thing, just like reverse racism isn't a thing. You can be prejudiced against cis or white people, but they created the institutions that benefit them and oppress non-cis/white people, thus -isms like sexism and racism don't apply.

edit: also metonymy, rhetoric, limitations of language, etc etc.

What you are describing is Systemic Rac/Sexism. You are right reverse racism is a not a thing...that is just plain racism which still does apply regardless if one is cis/white/hetero.

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Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:33 am

00dani wrote:
Prak wrote:Cissexism isn't a thing, just like reverse racism isn't a thing. You can be prejudiced against cis or white people, but they created the institutions that benefit them and oppress non-cis/white people, thus -isms like sexism and racism don't apply.
No, no, cissexism isn't prejudice against cis people! It refers to behaviours that normalise and privilege cis people over trans people, similarly to transphobia/transmisia but with a greater emphasis on the subconscious and casual behaviours that promote cisness. It could also be called cisnormativity.

So, y'know, a thread title criticising the dominance of men in writing tabletop RPGs, that happens to equate being male with having particular genitals, would be cissexist. Which is what confused me so much about this thread.

That would be cisnormativity. And... ok, yes. The specific rhetoric I implied in the title is cisnormative.

Do you have a better way to express "apparently only cis men write adventure games" with the same derisive sentiment?

Rawbeard · Post by **Rawbeard** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:01 am

Ancient History wrote:World of Darkness: Gypsies.

this... this is not a thing, right? or it was written in the 80s or something, right?

Leress · Post by **Leress** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:28 am

Rawbeard wrote:
Ancient History wrote:World of Darkness: Gypsies.
this... this is not a thing, right? or it was written in the 80s or something, right?

Actually the 90s... 1994 to be precise.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Wo ... escription

Mask_De_H · Post by **Mask_De_H** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:21 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Ever consider you might be an oversensitive Berkshire hunt?

Honestly, have you?

If you have a problem, tell them to suck a barrel of cocks like a proper Denner instead of trying to dodge the censor.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:18 pm

The word filter is retarded. We're grown-ass adults and we should be able to call each other Berkshire hunts and British cigarettes and whatever other words that are filtered. We can keep the moratorium on threats of death or violence though.

Grek · Post by **Grek** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:24 pm

Wait you can't call people [EDITED] on this board?

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:32 pm

I'm all for keeping the filters. You can say what you want; you just get an [EDITED] and we don't have to derail any conversations about a word being offensive outside of the way you're using it. Further, because we're all adults, we can communicate our ideas with appropriate swearing; we don't need words that only exist for shock value.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:37 pm

deaddmwalking wrote: we don't need words that only exist for shock value.

So I can't discuss my upcoming trip to Scunthorpe?

EDIT: Hey, didn't catch it.

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:39 pm

In their failed attempts to make me not curse like a sailor, my parents frequently expressed that swearing indicates either a lack of imagination, a lack of linguistic skill, or both.

With everything except actual slurs and the Australian comma on the menu, that claim holds a bit more fucking weight than if it's used to deny all vulgar language.

Anyway I liked the one session of Monster Hearts I played in 2015, but I don't know if I'd have been comfortable dealing with that source material long enough for a campaign even if the group stayed as compatible for even 3 sessions as they were for just one.