ETortoise wrote:I feel there are a lot of dog whistles in the section on anti-semitism that I’m missing.
Tags in.infinitederpgeneration wrote:I can point out a few.
Poor people can and should die and the actual words of Christ mean less than nothing.I Have Traditional Christian values.
Murdering Muslims good, doing Christlike stuff is bad.My family crest attests to 3 European Crusades, and I regard that as a calling.
I believe in Free Speach: I understand that being offended comes with that freedom.
I should be allowed to escape consequences of my speech.
When I demand immoral and evil public policies, I should escape criticism for these policies.I have my Views and unless asked, or in my home, I keep them to myself.
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My family fought the Revolution; the two Rutledges who drafted and Signed the Constitution
and Delcaration of Independence, so I do take American Politics personally.
I support Tinyhands Shithole specifically because he is a white supremacist.Politically, I am an Independent Libertarian. I Voted for Perot, and Paul, but do support what Trump has managed to do for America, despite being labeled Hitler.
I am wearing a tin-foil hat right now. Everything I’m about to say is bullshit.I do have relatives and friends in Government with Top Secret Clearances.
Prior to 9/11 I also did some private work for the Government, no tin-foil here.
Emphasis added to point out a term that is only not ambiguous or puzzling in the context of self-indulgent rightwing conspiracy theory.Today's Conspiracy often proves to be Tomorrow's Truth. Mud is everywhere, and they revel in getting us to throw it on each other.
Do I need to say it?I have been accused of being a Racist. I am not. I have made and keep friends of all races.
Do I need to say it?
Some
of
my
best
friends
are
black.*
* A.k.a., lying about the point of racism, which is being able to choose who is worthy and who is not due to an immoral privilege.
I am obviously white, employing white privilege, invoking white supremacy, and cannot be held responsible for the same because the Rules of Racism say otherwise.**I am not pure white; being part Cherokee, Dutch, and Romanian.
** Lying about the point of racism again. White supremacists pretend that white supremacy is a superficial and exactingly specific cartoon xenophobia that has nothing to do with reality. Thus, if you have anything other than some arbitrarily white-themed background, you can argue that you aren’t white enough to be a white supremacist, ignoring the fact that whites define whiteness in a self-serving manner since the moment they invented whiteness and that people who don’t fit into whiteness can be white supremacists.
I am glad we owned people, but the moral responsibility for slavery falls upon Jews.My family came to America in 1643, and by 1665 owned Slaves, sold to us by Jewish Slave Merchants.
I want to own people and commit all manner of atrocities as someone who didn’t want to do these horrible things would never bring them up.I personally would not own anyone.
Someofmybestfriendsareblack.When they first started bussing blacks to my school in the 60's, two were introduced to my class, Renee and Tony.
A black person tolerates me. I am unaware that non-bigoted persons do not think that associating with non-whites eliminates the possibility of bigotry. Someofmybestfriendsareblack.I was the first white boy to make friends with Tony, and we are still friends to this day.
I want to say the n-word without consequence. Someofmybestfriendsareblack.He knows I do not hate blacks, but knows I am just as capable of racial humor as he is.
If it doesn’t affect me or directly inform my personal life, murder, assault, and enslave who you like; I have no moral center.the idea that children be separated so, as was common then, bothered me a lot because I have 6 children on my own.
I respect people based on their behavior, not what they are, or think they are.
Christianity doesn’t mean shit, morals and ethics don’t mean shit, raping and murdering doesn’t mean shit (and I’d be kind of into it — see above) but my whiteness is the entirety of my identity and it is unassailable.Do I feel shame for the actions of my ancestors? No. My ancestors walked in a different time.
Anything short of murdering a person of color in the streets cannot be racist so long as the action benefits me and mine.Do I feel a kinship with the Black Bledsoes? Yes. We share a common bond, of having walked together in that time. My home is open to them, as it is to all people. That does not sound very racist.
Woooooooooaahhhhkaay, so I’ve done a sub-mediocre job of staying in-character as this shitstain’s inside voice, but I’m going to have to break even that thin theming because I can’t give a terse, snappy response to this to someone who hasn’t dealt with a good bad amount of white supremacists brainpus.I have worked for Jewish Causes several times, and donate yearly to MDA, which benefits Ashkenazim Jews.
So in order to defend themselves against charges of white supremacy, white supremacists do what many racists do and insist that they aren’t personally bigoted because they are not arguing for a specific, arbitrary and unnatural race-based ordering of resources and rights in society. That is, they’re not saying that whites are at the top of a hierarchy in all things, and are then asserting that a racist would be arguing for such a hierarchy, and that they are therefore Not A Racist. They tell themselves this and often forget, especially nowadays with the internet giving them convenient echo chambers, that the rest of the world does not operate on BigotSpeak and does not accept their definition in the first place, so unless they’re talking to establishment centrists, this doesn’t fly.
Which brings us to the Jews — specifically, the Ashkenazi (“Ashkenazim” as this guy put it) Jews.
Because white supremacists want to attack brown people with public policy and want an excuse to do so, they assert that a) IQ is a valid means of evaluating intelligence, b) IQ results and intelligence in general is a function of genetics more than anything else, c) race and races as white supremacists would define them are accurate ways of determining genetic makeup, and d) IQ scores are a justification for establishing public policy for a group — and (d) is complete underpants gnomes territory because they don’t establish a criteria linking IQ to said policy but it doesn’t matter because this is obviously an attempt to steal from and attack black people anyway; they’re not pushing these policies in areas with poor white people with low IQ scores. So this is basically the Bell Curve again; here’s a takedown of that.
I told you that story so that I could tell you this one: recall that white supremacists want to wiggle out of that classification. To that end, they rate Ashkenazi Jews to be “teh smartest” because of high-IQ scores and therefore claim that they aren’t white supremacists at all. AlsoblackIQscoresarelowsoweshouldrobthem. This also is meant to deflect charges of anti-semitism; both attempts ignore the fact that non-bigots find this deflection transparent. Thus, this particular group of Jews comes up in weird places that aren’t weird if you hang out with white supremacists so white supremacists forget that this is weird.
Ahem; back to it.
I think All Paths Lead eventually to God, and there is good to be found in All People and Religions, I have studied several of them.
I know nothing of religion and am pompous in my ignorance, otherwise I’d know that Judaeo-Christian is political cant made up to bolster white claims. Further:As for the religious aspect, I do not believe in Judaeo-Christianity.
I am not a Christian and it doesn’t matter because I’m white and privileged and my bullshit will never be challenged. (Also see two quotes below.)My views do not come from studying the Scriptures from Hebrew, but from the original Aramaic.
I despise Jews and all that love stuff Christ said means absolutely nothing to me.I do not believe Christ was a Jew
I have never done any serious scholarship or even casual study; instead, I read books that indulge my bigotry and encourage me to find worth in whiteness.I suggest they study the Books of Moses in Aramaic, as it was the language of Christ
Okay, so this one is a bit inside-basebally but it’s come up in my experiences more than once. So here’s the thing: the New Testament is in Greek. The Old in Hebrew, because obviously. Greek was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean at the time of the former’s writing, so it made sense to write it in that language. Aramaic was spoken by people in the areas and times at issue, but the scriptures weren’t written in it.
But because the commercial cultural christianity is devoid of rigor, there are lots of sources in that demographic that get the idea that everything was in Aramaic because They Spoke Aramaic. I’ve had arguments with people claiming that the New Testament was written in Aramaic while I was holding a copy of its original Greek. People not only believe this, they heard this sort of thing from trusted sources, so they feel authentic claiming it.
If you needed yet another reason why Mel Gibson is a piece of shit (you don’t), here’s one. He made his Torture Porn White Jesus in Aramaic, unaware or uncaring of the more complex linguistic situation of the day. I even had a discussion/argument with a pastor’s family over that (and the fact that the Italians killed Jesus in the story but Gibson when out of his way to hire the lightest-skinned Italian to play Jesus in a world were everyone else was more brown and the Jews had full responsibility for his death, but I digress). This bit of ahistoricity adds to the weird otherness that permeates interactions with superficial cultural christianity.
What this tells us is that the quoted white supremacist has lived quite comfortably in his bubble, either mostly unchallenged or willfully ignoring any challenges to his blinkered, self-indulgent worldview. He’s taken effort to tone down his more violently bigoted inclinations in the interests of self-preservation — and he’d like a cookie for that work. The problem is, he’s so far down his comfortable rabbit hole that he can’t talk to normies anymore.
I can’t imagine how he must sound to someone from outside the U.S.
This went long. Apologies.
