you realize that you are wrong right?hogarth wrote:You realise that in AD&D, a 10th level fighter could kill 10 goblins per round, right? Nobody I knew had a problem with that (although maybe that's because rounds used to be longer).MfA wrote:How is a mundane sword blow supposed to be "taking down waves of orcs each round" ... the guy is in cognitive dissonance.
level has NOTHING to do with what you are citing, and there were plenty of people that had a problem with it i had a hard time finding what you were citing, but finally did.
note the bolded portion... AS AN OPTION.2e DMG wrote:Multiple Attacks and Initiative
Combat may involve creatures or characters able to attack more than once in a single round. This may be due to multiple attack forms (claws and bite), skill with a weapon, or character level. No matter what the reason, all multiple attacks are handled by one of two methods.
When multiple attacks result from different attack forms--for example claws and a bite or bite and tail, or a ranger with his two-weapon combat ability--the attacks occur at the same time. The creature resolves all of its attacks in initiative order.
When the attacks are true multiples--using the same weapon more than once--as in the case of a highly skilled fighter, the attacks are staggered. Everyone involved in the combat completes one action before the second (or subsequent) attack roll is made.
Take, for example, a fighter who can attack twice per round, and say he's battling creatures that can only make one attack. The fighter wins initiative. He makes his first attack according to the rolled initiative order. Then each creature gets its attack. Finally, the fighter gets his second attack.
If fighters on both sides in a battle were able to attack twice in a round, their first attacks would occur according to the initiative roll. Their second attacks would come after all other attacks, and would then alternate according to the initiative roll.
As an option, a warrior fighting creatures with less than one Hit Die (1-1 or lower) can make a number of attacks equal to his level (i.e., a 7th-level fighter can make seven attacks). These attacks are handled in order of initiative.
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also not that with the except of a few words in the first sentence the context is EXACTLY the same in the PHB, except for the line started with the bolded part.
the entire thing about "less than one HD" is missing from the PHB entirely. so if you werent reading from and choosing that method of initiative use, it is likely it was overlooked by MANY people, so not as common as you would think it to be known, and even less common it saw use due to the varying methods of resolving initiative.
