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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:28 am
by Count Arioch the 28th
Some of my dice shatter on occasion, but they got ran over by a car a while back for the most part.

Explanation: I lived in a college town. In every college town, there's a balck market for stolen books. Someone stole my backpack out of my car and walked about a block, realized they were D&D books and not textbooks, and dumped it all on the ground, even emptying my dice bag in a way that can't possibly have been by accident. Since all that was in the middle of the road...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:52 am
by Agrinja
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Some of my dice shatter on occasion, but they got ran over by a car a while back for the most part.

Explanation: I lived in a college town. In every college town, there's a balck market for stolen books. Someone stole my backpack out of my car and walked about a block, realized they were D&D books and not textbooks, and dumped it all on the ground, even emptying my dice bag in a way that can't possibly have been by accident. Since all that was in the middle of the road...
Dude....that just....sucks.


Random note, the kind of dice tower I'm going to make is relatively small, less for purposes of 'better randomization' as much as I like to play with dice and fiddle with things...my desk is tiny. So something that takes up a footprint of roughly two coffee mugs would be great for random number generation for the hell of it.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:55 am
by Prak
Agrinja wrote:
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Some of my dice shatter on occasion, but they got ran over by a car a while back for the most part.

Explanation: I lived in a college town. In every college town, there's a balck market for stolen books. Someone stole my backpack out of my car and walked about a block, realized they were D&D books and not textbooks, and dumped it all on the ground, even emptying my dice bag in a way that can't possibly have been by accident. Since all that was in the middle of the road...
Dude....that just....sucks.


Random note, the kind of dice tower I'm going to make is relatively small, less for purposes of 'better randomization' as much as I like to play with dice and fiddle with things...my desk is tiny. So something that takes up a footprint of roughly two coffee mugs would be great for random number generation for the hell of it.
Hey, follow your bliss, man. Sounds like fun, honestly. And you could do some really interesting things with the inner "workings"

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:35 am
by Clutch9800
Back in the day I used to play in my basement in San Diego, which had a smooth poured concrete floor.

Alot of times the higher quality dice (believe it or not) would fall off the edge of the table and bounce about a foot and a half high off the floor.

One Bounce-Two Bounce-Boom. They'd shatter.

The cheap dice never did that, only the nice ones.

Clutch

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:11 pm
by RobbyPants
Koumei wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:gamers almost always have their superstitions about dice
Best ones I've heard:
[*]Dice are social creatures. They roll better if you roll them in groups - include a handful of (different type/obviously marked) support dice with your rolls.
[*]Commissar theory: when a die goes rogue, arrange the others in a circle. Place a transparent glass of boiling water in the middle of the circle. Drop the offending die in. The others will learn.
I used to game with two wiccan gamers. They would claim they'd do something to attune their dice or whatever, putting their own personal energy into it. It was a big no-no for anyone else to touch their dice, because it'd screw up the energy.

So I asked them what effect the energy had on their dice. I figure if it has no effect, then what's the point? If it's supposed to have a positive effect, then they're willfully cheating, as the point of the die isn't to roll 20s all the time, but rather to give an even distribution of numbers over many rolls.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:36 pm
by Crissa
I do have dice made from glass and natural stone, too. They would shatter if they hit a hard surface with too much force.

-Crissa

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:56 pm
by fbmf
RobbyPants wrote:I figure if it has no effect, then what's the point? If it's supposed to have a positive effect, then they're willfully cheating, as the point of the die isn't to roll 20s all the time, but rather to give an even distribution of numbers over many rolls.
I said something similar on WotC once, and was crucified for it. Seriously, I was told that i was "draconian" and that said poster would leave my table and not return if I said that in their presence.

No shit.

Game On,
fbmf

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:16 am
by Count Arioch the 28th
fbmf wrote:
RobbyPants wrote:I figure if it has no effect, then what's the point? If it's supposed to have a positive effect, then they're willfully cheating, as the point of the die isn't to roll 20s all the time, but rather to give an even distribution of numbers over many rolls.
I said something similar on WotC once, and was crucified for it. Seriously, I was told that i was "draconian" and that said poster would leave my table and not return if I said that in their presence.

No shit.

Game On,
fbmf
Probably for the best. The wiccans I have known have been head cases.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:46 am
by Ravyn Dawnbringer
As for the commissar theory, I did something similar with risk. But it wasn't the dice I blamed, oh no, it was the soldiers. And if I was soundly defeated a la 300, I would then bite the head off a plastic soldier. Little bastards didn't work hard enough.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:35 pm
by Clutch9800
When I lived in Texas I once put the head of a really big Cockroach on the tip of a toothpick in a cabinet.

I didn't have roaches in my apartment after that.

Clutch

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:55 pm
by Koumei
We used to have a giant inflatable redback* spider hanging from a light. We joked that it would scare other spiders away, as the king spider.

Yeah, we started noticing actual redback spiders around the house. They must have been drawn towards their god.

*For the non Australians, it's similar to a black widow, but has an actual red/brown/orange dot, stripe or hourclass on the abdomen. Still considered a deadly Australian animal, but basically no-one ever dies from them. The venom is highly unpleasant with the regular effects: fever, sweating, cold chills, headache/migraine, nausea, the shits, shivering, local pain and swelling, blurred vision. But you could totally survive it unless very young/old/sick or if you're a Plant-type Pokemon. Especially with medical attention.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:57 pm
by Prak
actually about the same as black widows these days, you have to be out in the damned sticks or young/old/infirm/whatever to be at any particular risk from widow poison these days, if i recall.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:39 pm
by Clutch9800
actually about the same as black widows these days, you have to be out in the damned sticks or young/old/infirm/whatever to be at any particular risk from widow poison these days, if i recall.
Yeah. My San Diego basement was over-run with Black Widows. I never got bit and God be praised my kids never did.

Black Widows got kinda mundane.

Clutch

P.S. I still hate rattlesnakes.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:26 pm
by Crissa
If you had brown widows instead (not as dangerous) they would displace the more poisonous spiders.

I have no idea what to do down under. You guys seem to have only bad choices.

-Crissa

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:46 pm
by Count Arioch the 28th
I like black widows. I let them be when I see them.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:57 pm
by Clutch9800
I hate them, with thier crazy inter-webs. All over the place.

Count. Let one bite you. Then you'll need a sandwich, a douchbag, and a Black Widow to accomplish anything.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:01 pm
by Ravyn Dawnbringer
I live on Vancouver Island. The black widows we have here are (I've heard) the deadliest strain, and they show up all over the place. Never heard of anyone dying from one though....

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:18 pm
by Count Arioch the 28th
To put it in persepctive: The deadliest spider only kills about 1.5% of the people it bites. A spider bite is worse than a bee sting, but even the worst spider bite will probably just make you sick for a while.

EDIT: and before someone mentions the Brown Recluse and the infamous "bulls-eye sore", I want to say one thing: That's a staph infection, not something the venom is doing. Spiders often times carry staph in their digestive systems, it's harmless to them but not so good for anything else.

Pet peeve of mine, people claiming that they know someone bittne by a Brown Recluse. They don't live much farther north than South Carolina because they die if it gets too cold, no they don't live in people's houses because they hate people, and no they aren't able to transplant somewhere else any more than you can get an elephant to live in Antarctica.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:27 pm
by Crissa
I've never heard of black widows in BC. But spiders like recluses do live there. I wonder if the widows are native or transplants like the others? They don't like people, but they like our dry areas we store stuff in.

-Crissa

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:59 pm
by Count Arioch the 28th
Loxosceles reclusa prefers damp over dry in most cases. Not familiar with hobo spiders, although my spider contacts on the west coast say that as far as panicky people reacting they're about the same :p.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were some species of the Latrodecus genus that far north. I know there's scorpions as far north as VA, so I can imagine widows live pretty far north if they can find a nice warm hidey-hole to set up kip in.

Widows are the bane of Wastewater operators, because there are lots of pipes and vaults that are warm all year round and moist, as well as dark and private. I generally leave them be.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:15 pm
by Crissa
Well, the black widows like dry, but like I said, false widows or brown widows can displace them pretty easily. We've kept a colony in our storage bins for... Well, fifteen years? Dunno if they'll make this last move, it's much cooler all year here.

Yeah, recluses were apparently blamed for hobo spider infestations and bites back in the Sound. They like cold and wet. Well, dunno about the cold, but they like it wet.

-Crissa

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:01 am
by Count Arioch the 28th
Everyone likes to blame poor L. reclusa for everything. I have gotten threats because I told people that they wouldn't be able to identify one if they saw it, most spiders are small and brown in this area. The so-called "violin marking" is so small you'd need a magnifying glass to see it and not present in every individual anyway. Even an arachnologist would need to have an intact specimen and a dissecting scope to identify one, they are that generic looking.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:05 am
by Ravyn Dawnbringer
I don't know if they are native, but the island sounds like their kind of climate, especially in the southeast parts of said island. It's warm (Victoria has the highest homeless population in Canada for this reason) it's typically dry in summer and there are a great deal of places for them to hide out. I have personally seen the red hourglass on their backs, but I understand that is not definitively a black widow trait

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:19 am
by Crissa
Well, Victoria is strangely warmer than the coast of Washington and Oregon. I can say this, having grown up on said coast ^-^

-Crissa

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:39 am
by Josh_Kablack
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Everyone likes to blame poor L. reclusa for everything. I have gotten threats because I told people that they wouldn't be able to identify one if they saw it, most spiders are small and brown in this area. The so-called "violin marking" is so small you'd need a magnifying glass to see it and not present in every individual anyway. Even an arachnologist would need to have an intact specimen and a dissecting scope to identify one, they are that generic looking.
But the necrotizing wound they leave is (wrongly) regarded as fairly unique, so they do get blamed for a whole lot of "what the heck could have bit me to do this?" type bites, scrapes, wounds and infections