Wow. Are modus tollens and modus ponens really that hard to understand?Maj wrote:I'm going to have nightmares tonight because of this conversation:
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Evidently for at least one person.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
We were sort of 
reading that conversation. Just wow. I did not include the part where he asked if eating meat was cannibalism. That was good, too. As it turned out, Rocker is a Christian who believes that humans are set apart from the rest of the animal kingdom because God. So saying humans are animals is apparently sacrilegious (???) or something. It was a really crazy conversation. The plant thing, though... WTF?!
reading that conversation. Just wow. I did not include the part where he asked if eating meat was cannibalism. That was good, too. As it turned out, Rocker is a Christian who believes that humans are set apart from the rest of the animal kingdom because God. So saying humans are animals is apparently sacrilegious (???) or something. It was a really crazy conversation. The plant thing, though... WTF?!
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It's a common religious tactic to try to get people to go "I don't know", so Fundies can go "SEE! We COULD be right!"
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
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.... a few months before me and my Ex-wife split up, she got an extremely short haircut. And I grew my hair out and had a ponytail for years. That's fucking hilarious.Prak wrote:
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It states that a "perfectly good looking man" grows a ponytail and all that, which means that you'd need to be good looking to start with, and you, my friend, were never perfectly good looking.
Thus, you would be excluded from that statement.
(Also, man-tails are about as sexy as mullets.)
Thus, you would be excluded from that statement.
(Also, man-tails are about as sexy as mullets.)
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I already said I was excluded from that statement:
Also, I think this sums up your views on hair very nicely (and is an image macro so I'm actually getting things back on topic.)
(Seriously, my post was 2 sentences long, kinda hard to miss that.)me wrote:Also, I was never good looking and don't collect tarantulas so I was clearly not created by this prophecy.
Also, I think this sums up your views on hair very nicely (and is an image macro so I'm actually getting things back on topic.)
Pseudo Stupidity wrote:This Applebees fucking sucks, much like all Applebees. I wanted to go to Femboy Hooters (communism).
Some of those "mythconceptions" are themselves misleading. For example, on the left brain / right brain thing, see wiki on Wernke's area: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernicke's_area. Brains are really plastic, and amazingly resilient, but destroying the same area on opposite sides has wildly different (though related) results.
Salt water is similarly misleading. Not only does salt water boil slower, but adding a small amount of salt can actually make fresh water boil faster (just like adding any other particulate).
The "72 virgins" entry pushes its own weirdly biased view: Protestantism only has the bible, so every other religion must also have only one holy book. The Qu'uran is admittedly paramount, but ignoring the hadith will give you a bad picture (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutub_al-Sittah).
The sugar=hyperactivity thing is obviously true anecdotally. That's not to say that the studies were wrong, but they are perhaps incorrectly generalized. For example, IIRC, the Duke ones were testing actual physical performance (like, put a kid on a treadmill, and more sugar != more running).
Long story short, don't take things on faith just because they claim to be authoritative.
Salt water is similarly misleading. Not only does salt water boil slower, but adding a small amount of salt can actually make fresh water boil faster (just like adding any other particulate).
The "72 virgins" entry pushes its own weirdly biased view: Protestantism only has the bible, so every other religion must also have only one holy book. The Qu'uran is admittedly paramount, but ignoring the hadith will give you a bad picture (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutub_al-Sittah).
The sugar=hyperactivity thing is obviously true anecdotally. That's not to say that the studies were wrong, but they are perhaps incorrectly generalized. For example, IIRC, the Duke ones were testing actual physical performance (like, put a kid on a treadmill, and more sugar != more running).
Long story short, don't take things on faith just because they claim to be authoritative.
Vebyast wrote:Here's a fun target for Major Creation: hydrazine. One casting every six seconds at CL9 gives you a bit more than 40 liters per second, which is comparable to the flow rates of some small, but serious, rocket engines. Six items running at full blast through a well-engineered engine will put you, and something like 50 tons of cargo, into space. Alternatively, if you thrust sideways, you will briefly be a fireball screaming across the sky at mach 14 before you melt from atmospheric friction.
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That brain thing is really interesting, thank you fectin.
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DSMatticus wrote:Again, look at this fucking map you moron. Take your finger and trace each country's coast, then trace its claim line. Even you - and I say that as someone who could not think less of your intelligence - should be able to tell that one of these things is not like the other.
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Tycho, that was uncalled for.
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Fectin hit the nail on the head with the mythconceptions.
An oddity about this particular infographic is that it has some really odd phrasing for some of the myths. THe title for the myth bubbles and the explanation seem almost tangentially connected at times. I would assume that the the description would refute the myth that is the title. but the it only gives a vague explanation at times or explains something else.
Oneo f hte weird bubbles in the poster is about "Evolution is only a theory." WIth that title, the assumption is that it's going to tell us that no, evolution is NOT only a theory. THe problem with the myth isn't that evolution is a theory but the lay use of theory* compared to the scientific definition of theory are different.
Another strange bubble is labeled "Caffeine dehydrates you." It goes on to explain that despite the fact that while caffeine is a diuretic (and the unexplained idea that a diuretic will dehydrate you) the water in caffeinated drinks will rehydrate you. So again we have a myth that isn't talking about Caffeine being dehydrating but about Coffee or tea dehydrating you.
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*Although some would argue that in conjunction with evolution that the lay use of it is very valid because what's evolution about if not sex?***
** I know evolution is about a lot of things and not sex but...fuck you...it was funny in my head. Things that are funny in my head are obviously funny everywhere.
An oddity about this particular infographic is that it has some really odd phrasing for some of the myths. THe title for the myth bubbles and the explanation seem almost tangentially connected at times. I would assume that the the description would refute the myth that is the title. but the it only gives a vague explanation at times or explains something else.
Oneo f hte weird bubbles in the poster is about "Evolution is only a theory." WIth that title, the assumption is that it's going to tell us that no, evolution is NOT only a theory. THe problem with the myth isn't that evolution is a theory but the lay use of theory* compared to the scientific definition of theory are different.
Another strange bubble is labeled "Caffeine dehydrates you." It goes on to explain that despite the fact that while caffeine is a diuretic (and the unexplained idea that a diuretic will dehydrate you) the water in caffeinated drinks will rehydrate you. So again we have a myth that isn't talking about Caffeine being dehydrating but about Coffee or tea dehydrating you.
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*Although some would argue that in conjunction with evolution that the lay use of it is very valid because what's evolution about if not sex?***
** I know evolution is about a lot of things and not sex but...fuck you...it was funny in my head. Things that are funny in my head are obviously funny everywhere.
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I know the sugar one is shit since I can personally testify to the hyperactive effects it has.
Also, I have ADHD, but I don't "misbehave" or have poor behaviors without sugar. I am actually much more likely to remain calm and well behaved when I don't have it. But every time I have sugar, I get high and hyperactive and do stupid shit.
Also, I have ADHD, but I don't "misbehave" or have poor behaviors without sugar. I am actually much more likely to remain calm and well behaved when I don't have it. But every time I have sugar, I get high and hyperactive and do stupid shit.
Is this wretched demi-bee
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I dunno, maybe I do. Teachers et al suggested medicating me for it as a kid but my parents refused and I'm thankful that they didn't.
As a full grown man I still bounce in place when waiting around and frequently daydream or wander, but I have a lot more control on things now so if I have it I would have to say it is fairly mild.
On sugar I've never noticed it to have an effect one way or another. So my anecdote cancels out Shrapnel's.
As a full grown man I still bounce in place when waiting around and frequently daydream or wander, but I have a lot more control on things now so if I have it I would have to say it is fairly mild.
On sugar I've never noticed it to have an effect one way or another. So my anecdote cancels out Shrapnel's.
I do. I take Ritalin, which helps.
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This is a bullshit anecdote, because you don't keep track of the sugar content of all the food you eat. Some foods have a lot more sugar in them than you think they do and other foods have a lot less. If you tell people that they are eating sugar, they have a tendency to become hyperactive, but if people eat sugar without knowing it they don't.Shrapnel wrote:I know the sugar one is shit since I can personally testify to the hyperactive effects it has.
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Eh. I know what I know, and from my experience when I have sugar I get hyperactive, even when I don't know that there's sugar in what I eat. Maybe it is psychological, but I tend to avoid having too much of it regardless (I mean, processed sugar is unhealthy to begin with. Too bad it makes things taste so good...)
On the ADHD thing, I have it really bad. I also have Aspergers, a mood disorder, one kidney, and arthritis at the ripe age of 22. I'm like a pinata filled with issues.
On the ADHD thing, I have it really bad. I also have Aspergers, a mood disorder, one kidney, and arthritis at the ripe age of 22. I'm like a pinata filled with issues.
Is this wretched demi-bee
Half asleep upon my knee
Some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric, the half a bee
Half asleep upon my knee
Some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric, the half a bee
@ sugar:
I use to drink 2 2-liters of soda a day. I'd get crazy Restless Leg Syndrome.
I cut out the soda (but still get caffeine from unsweetened sources), and my RLS stopped immediately. Soda is seriously the only change I made.
I'm not entirely sure what the connection is (though I do have some suspicions); but there you go.
I use to drink 2 2-liters of soda a day. I'd get crazy Restless Leg Syndrome.
I cut out the soda (but still get caffeine from unsweetened sources), and my RLS stopped immediately. Soda is seriously the only change I made.
I'm not entirely sure what the connection is (though I do have some suspicions); but there you go.
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The link is good, but the video is mostly just patronizing. Worse, it's almost entirely consistent with my description above. (The exception being the study he mentions where parents rate their kids as more hyperactive after being lied to about whether they've had sugar).
It's hard enough to prove an absolute negative, and only takes one counterexample to disprove it. At that point, even a single datapoint, if valid, is decisive, and that is exactly what the video spends most of its effort dismissing. For example, if I survive a 40-story fall and walk away unscathed, that's an anecdote. But no amount of controlled experiments pushing people off of 40-story ledges can then prove that it is impossible for humans to survive falls from that height. Sneering dismissals of my survival as mere anecdote don't then make your falling-person studies more correct.
That said, I'm just not very familiar with this. Way back in high school, the first MC I played with had a family member doing some of that research, so I've heard about it, but I just haven't read up on it. The suggestion that kids only get candy at times they're predisposed to be hyper anyway is fairly persuasive to me, but it's at least as plausible from the studies described in the video and the JAMA abstract that anything sweet causes hyperactivity (control would be covarient then, and e.g. http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917 ... lood-sugar is consistent with that).
Underall, I'm willing to concede this point though. My broader point still stands.
It's hard enough to prove an absolute negative, and only takes one counterexample to disprove it. At that point, even a single datapoint, if valid, is decisive, and that is exactly what the video spends most of its effort dismissing. For example, if I survive a 40-story fall and walk away unscathed, that's an anecdote. But no amount of controlled experiments pushing people off of 40-story ledges can then prove that it is impossible for humans to survive falls from that height. Sneering dismissals of my survival as mere anecdote don't then make your falling-person studies more correct.
That said, I'm just not very familiar with this. Way back in high school, the first MC I played with had a family member doing some of that research, so I've heard about it, but I just haven't read up on it. The suggestion that kids only get candy at times they're predisposed to be hyper anyway is fairly persuasive to me, but it's at least as plausible from the studies described in the video and the JAMA abstract that anything sweet causes hyperactivity (control would be covarient then, and e.g. http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917 ... lood-sugar is consistent with that).
Underall, I'm willing to concede this point though. My broader point still stands.
Vebyast wrote:Here's a fun target for Major Creation: hydrazine. One casting every six seconds at CL9 gives you a bit more than 40 liters per second, which is comparable to the flow rates of some small, but serious, rocket engines. Six items running at full blast through a well-engineered engine will put you, and something like 50 tons of cargo, into space. Alternatively, if you thrust sideways, you will briefly be a fireball screaming across the sky at mach 14 before you melt from atmospheric friction.