Nerf them all, Gygax will know his own.Maxus wrote:Edit: Or, put it this way, they really did screw everybody just to make sure they got the powergamers/optimizers.
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I wonder how people came to think that 'overpowered' is the worst sin a player can commit. Remember that thread in the Trenches forum, where that Psion quit the game, according to him, BECAUSE he made an overpowered character?Calibron wrote:Nerf them all, Gygax will know his own.Maxus wrote:Edit: Or, put it this way, they really did screw everybody just to make sure they got the powergamers/optimizers.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Josh_Kablack
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I gripe for the 4e that could have been.
So when a 4e "designer" states that he fixes things by changing them in contradictory ways, without even realizing that he's setting up contradictory goals, I get frothing mad.
It's not like nWoD or a myriad of other games, which I just don't gripe about - because I don't care about them.
- Putting everyone on the same power schedule
- Making healsticks non-mandatory via giving everyone access to self-healing and also limiting the absolute amount of daily healing
- Recognizing that different tiers of play should be treating differently
- Separating the setting-breaking powers off into rituals instead of handing them out like easter eggs with any spellcasting class
- Limiting the uses of magic items
So when a 4e "designer" states that he fixes things by changing them in contradictory ways, without even realizing that he's setting up contradictory goals, I get frothing mad.
It's not like nWoD or a myriad of other games, which I just don't gripe about - because I don't care about them.
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TavishArtair
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White Wolf at least admits it makes terribly balanced games, justifying it simply by saying it is not interested in making balanced games... that is, that those are basically for chumps. So they do manage to pan out interesting hooks and concepts, but not so much on the mechanical rigor, and that's actually fine, since that was their goal most of the time.
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@ Mean Liar & Josh
Perhaps I learned to read and parse English differently than you, but what he says make perfect sense to me.
1. 5min work days suck. ie blowing wad and then having to rest to get it back. Solution, make resources that reset after resting into resources that reset after a combat.
2. 4e doesn't work like the above and I don't have time to work something out, so I let my players know that they need to reserve their sleep reseting resources. This is what is supported by the game currently, and so that is the way in which I need to run. * I = Greg.
Now if you instead are trying to state that he is working against himself, in that he wants to see the iconic powers used, but that he is running the game as intended, and thus the iconic powers are rarely used, I agree.
But that is not a problem w/ the way he runs, it is a problem with the design of the game.
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Perhaps I learned to read and parse English differently than you, but what he says make perfect sense to me.
1. 5min work days suck. ie blowing wad and then having to rest to get it back. Solution, make resources that reset after resting into resources that reset after a combat.
2. 4e doesn't work like the above and I don't have time to work something out, so I let my players know that they need to reserve their sleep reseting resources. This is what is supported by the game currently, and so that is the way in which I need to run. * I = Greg.
Now if you instead are trying to state that he is working against himself, in that he wants to see the iconic powers used, but that he is running the game as intended, and thus the iconic powers are rarely used, I agree.
But that is not a problem w/ the way he runs, it is a problem with the design of the game.
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