Then either your metric of value is morally abhorrent, or you think there exist no individuals whose net contributions to the world are negative. Here is a list of serial killers, in descending order of people they murdered. Please explain to me what good they've contributed that makes up for and exceeds the lives they've destroyed. Then there's Hitler, Pol Pot, and so on, and those pretty much speak for themself. And then we get into the mundane modern evils, like Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers and that bullshit, whose legacies are massive propaganda machines that throw money and positive media attention at any ideology that furthers the interests of the few they like at the expense of the many they don't, and while they have probably never murdered anyone directly their actions have indirectly cost millions of people their very livelihoods and have cost us as a people a frightening amount of progress in every way imaginable.Drolyt wrote:I disagree with this in the strongest manner possible.Sigil wrote:No, that shit's true. Being a person only gives you the potential to be worth something. There are plenty of people that have negative worth, if you replaced them with actual nothing, the sum total of things that are of worth would be increased.zugschef wrote: wow
You are claiming that these people all have positive value, and the world is better because of them. You are wrong. Please do not fap to bullshit like "the inherent value of human life", because that there are people who are not valuable, inherently or otherwise, is as immediately obvious as the statement "terrible people exist." Your refusal to acknowledge that is not a noble statement about human dignity or what the fuck ever - it is just stupid and offensive. The number of people you owe an apology to is measured in the billions.
Now, I don't think shadzar is worthless, because extrapolating from "says things that are dumb about D&D" to "net contribution to the world is negative," would be placing a hilariously inappropriate value on TTRPG's. I think he's worthless in a discussion about D&D because I disagree vehemently with nigh everything he says, but otherwise he's just a dude.