No hyz, the thing that's oppressive to roleplay is fucking everything about how the story is presented. It runs on enough author fiat to choke a horse. That's fine for a story but motherfucker every player can't get Skitter's breaks and you sure as shit can't have the enemies they face be the Slaughterhouse Nine, the Endbringers, Scion, or even fucking Cauldron as they are presented in the serial. If you are that wedded to the story, you have to play Munchausen or Fiasco or Wushu; where the game is telling a story and the mechanics solely exist to quantify how much narrative bullshit the characters can get away with.
That's not a bad thing, I would totally play that. But for a mechanistic game you have to realize that Worm as is does not work from anything deeper than "Saints Row with Superheroes".
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FrankTrollman wrote: Halfling women, as I'm sure you are aware, combine all the "fun" parts of pedophilia without any of the disturbing, illegal, or immoral parts.
K wrote:That being said, the usefulness of airships for society is still transporting cargo because it's an option that doesn't require a powerful wizard to show up for work on time instead of blowing the day in his harem of extraplanar sex demons/angels.
Chamomile wrote: See, it's because K's belief in leaving generation of individual monsters to GMs makes him Chaotic, whereas Frank's belief in the easier usability of monsters pre-generated by game designers makes him Lawful, and clearly these philosophies are so irreconcilable as to be best represented as fundamentally opposed metaphysical forces.
Whipstitch wrote:You're on a mad quest, dude. I'd sooner bet on Zeus getting bored and letting Sisyphus put down the fucking rock.
Now, I haven't read the work itself, only a bit on tvtropes, but why do people give crap to Skitter about her powers? Any form of mind-control is an instant game changer, isn't it? Does no one in wormworse knows about the existence of poisonous insects?
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I've read the first chapter. Is school bullying a thing in America?
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O hai, Sylar!Jack Slash wrote:"My interest is in the design of people. What makes them tick? What holds them together? All too often, it’s one little thing. In architecture they call it a keystone. The one stone that keeps the entire arch from collapsing. The weak point. And I’m very, very good at finding those weak points."
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I've read the first chapter. Is school bullying a thing in America?
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:|tvtropes wrote:Damsel of Distress
A relatively harmless villainess who makes her home in a small town while occasionally trying to extend her influence into the larger, neighboring cities—only to fail and return to lick her wounds. Damsel has space warping powers, capable of destroying any matter or construction, albeit with a minimum of control.
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There are a lot of things wrong with this statement, so I'm going to give you a bulleted list.Does no one in wormworse knows about the existence of poisonous insects?
- Murder is a felony. In the Wormverse, superpowered felons all go to the same prison, and that prison is essentially a pit in the ground full of superpowered murderers and rapists. You don't want to get sent there, so you're going to take special effort to avoid murdering people. Having powers that let you murder people is a bad thing, not a good thing.
- Insect bites that are deadly are slow acting. A brown recluse bite is asymptomatic for several hours and takes days to actually kill. Thus, even if you did decide it was worth it to murder someone, it would be faster and easier to just buy a gun.
- Insect bites that are fast acting are neither deadly nor debilitating. A person can survive a huge number of ant bites or bee stings without even falling over. If you want to incapacitate someone without killing them, it would (again) be faster and easier to just buy some pepper spray. Or a taser.
- Even assuming you did somehow find a situation where it would be more effective to kill someone with mind controlled insects than to shoot them with your gun, you still wouldn't do it because modern forensics exist. When someone shows up at the morgue with a lethal dose of spider venom in their system and a bunch of bug bites, who do you think the cops are going to come looking for?
FrankTrollman wrote:I think Grek already won the thread and we should pack it in.
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School bullying is an excessively common thing in America.
Also, insect control strikes me as an incredibly creepily terrifying power. There's a shit ton of insects in any arbitrary location you might select. I cannot imagine taunting an insect controller about their powers to their face. Sure, a pissed-off hive of killer bees is probably not actually better than a gun, but I would not want to attract the wrath of someone who can send one after me.
Now, how useful it is basically depends on how much raw power she's got; it takes a bunch of insects to really be a noteworthy threat, but if she could control every anthill in the city that would be something else entirely.
Also, insect control strikes me as an incredibly creepily terrifying power. There's a shit ton of insects in any arbitrary location you might select. I cannot imagine taunting an insect controller about their powers to their face. Sure, a pissed-off hive of killer bees is probably not actually better than a gun, but I would not want to attract the wrath of someone who can send one after me.
Now, how useful it is basically depends on how much raw power she's got; it takes a bunch of insects to really be a noteworthy threat, but if she could control every anthill in the city that would be something else entirely.
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DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
Taylor's can control all the bugs in her powers radius, and that radius is pretty big more than one city block I think. She also can the sense things through her bug to some degree and mange giant swarms of bugs efficiently enough that she get's a "thinker" rating on top of her "master" classification. Her power is unconventional that for sure but I have no idea how people get the impression that it's weak.name_here wrote:Now, how useful it is basically depends on how much raw power she's got; it takes a bunch of insects to really be a noteworthy threat, but if she could control every anthill in the city that would be something else entirely.
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One of the heroes has a superpower of "create weapons". Having powers that a scary and intimidating is a good thing for a villain, and incapacitating someone with a thousand bees (my god!) isn't that hard.Grek wrote:
- Murder is a felony. In the Wormverse, superpowered felons all go to the same prison, and that prison is essentially a pit in the ground full of superpowered murderers and rapists. You don't want to get sent there, so you're going to take special effort to avoid murdering people. Having powers that let you murder people is a bad thing, not a good thing.
Painful and incapacitating. And while one poisonous spider might be slow killing, hundred of them should work faster.Grek wrote:
- Insect bites that are deadly are slow acting. A brown recluse bite is asymptomatic for several hours and takes days to actually kill. Thus, even if you did decide it was worth it to murder someone, it would be faster and easier to just buy a gun.
A giant swarm of bees should make a great distraction, removing a person from a fight for a while.Grek wrote:
- Insect bites that are fast acting are neither deadly nor debilitating. A person can survive a huge number of ant bites or bee stings without even falling over. If you want to incapacitate someone without killing them, it would (again) be faster and easier to just buy some pepper spray. Or a taser.
The Joker? Trying to be discreet when you are wearing a superhero/villain costume is kind of silly.Grek wrote:
- Even assuming you did somehow find a situation where it would be more effective to kill someone with mind controlled insects than to shoot them with your gun, you still wouldn't do it because modern forensics exist. When someone shows up at the morgue with a lethal dose of spider venom in their system and a bunch of bug bites, who do you think the cops are going to come looking for?
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Holy shit this is great.OgreBattle wrote:You use the power of insect control to go to Japan and become a GODDAMN CELEBRITY BEETLE KING. You could have your own goddamn Beetle Wrestling League that's perfectly choreographed and can even follow scripts, because you control everything.
And Skitter's power is undersold because she's the "eternal underdog". Being Wriggle Nightbug is an amazing ability, especially when Taylor starts to cultivate the real exotic shit.
FrankTrollman wrote: Halfling women, as I'm sure you are aware, combine all the "fun" parts of pedophilia without any of the disturbing, illegal, or immoral parts.
K wrote:That being said, the usefulness of airships for society is still transporting cargo because it's an option that doesn't require a powerful wizard to show up for work on time instead of blowing the day in his harem of extraplanar sex demons/angels.
Chamomile wrote: See, it's because K's belief in leaving generation of individual monsters to GMs makes him Chaotic, whereas Frank's belief in the easier usability of monsters pre-generated by game designers makes him Lawful, and clearly these philosophies are so irreconcilable as to be best represented as fundamentally opposed metaphysical forces.
Whipstitch wrote:You're on a mad quest, dude. I'd sooner bet on Zeus getting bored and letting Sisyphus put down the fucking rock.