Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:14 pm
Cognitive behavioral therapy?
I think all three of your points are important, but this one is the most important. This forum rarely cares for or responds to anything other than older games that newer gamers do not care about. Even 3.5 and SR4 discussion have dried up quite a bit, just because most people have gotten those systems to about where they want them to be, or at least good enough for government work.pragma wrote: 3) Being kind of irrelevant. Talking about SR4 and 3.5 hacks is not where the dominant RPG conversation is today. A "How to Make 5e Playable" thread / series could help a lot.
"Cock and Ball Torture," it's a fetish.The Adventurer's Almanac wrote:Cognitive behavioral therapy?
At risk of feeding into your second point, people who don't want to play the former and actually want to play 5e can fuck off, along with all the "community activity" they bring - this isn't a youtube channel where even the garbage is useful because it pleases an algorithm. I'm not particularly interested in bringing in new people as opposed to retaining the more productive people we still have, especially if the new people walk in with "5e is basically fine as is, why do you hate fun?" Or indeed the 4rry 4venger "raids" we used to get, if anybody remembers those.pragma wrote:3) Being kind of irrelevant. Talking about SR4 and 3.5 hacks is not where the dominant RPG conversation is today. A "How to Make 5e Playable" thread / series could help a lot.
Not just me then.Lord Charlemagne wrote:the den has had a lot of information in it that conversations are still built off of. I've archived crawled through the den & the sheer unorganized but dense information still results in there being things referenced that I have no idea about
Yes please. Do this thing. I was disheartened that Lancer was using some system as its core but I don’t even remember what (bearworld maybe?). If they got it right despite that then I wanna know!Grek wrote:Sounds like I should do a Lancer review then, because that's the first new TTRPG in over a decade where I felt like the contents of the book were worth the effort of having read it, let alone the price to get it.
[The Great Fence Builder Speaks]Mord wrote:fbmf, if you choose to shutter the forum, can you please make a backup available for download from your Google Drive or MegaUpload or suchlike?
I don't know how much more valuable content the community is going to produce going forward, but there is certainly a huge amount of valuable material here from the past that I'd hate to see lost.
The 4rries were trying to prop up a failing edition by yelling at anyone who expressed doubt as to 4e's popularity until they shut up in a vain effort to create an illusion of omnipresence. 4e players never had anything to contribute because they chose 4e.Koumei wrote:I'm not particularly interested in bringing in new people as opposed to retaining the more productive people we still have, especially if the new people walk in with "5e is basically fine as is, why do you hate fun?" Or indeed the 4rry 4venger "raids" we used to get, if anybody remembers those.
phlapjackage wrote:Dare I say it, that the average Denner starts off non-young, and gets older as the years go by. I gamed a shit-ton in my youth, but now...Sounds like some (many?) here are in similar situations. Getting older = less time and interest for gaming.Koumei wrote:This is probably a thing. I can't remember the last time I gamed in person, and that's not just because I have a poor memory, it was definitely several years ago
So you're right, with less and less gaming there's less and less to discuss. And with the current "modern world", the youngsters are less likely to A) game and B) seek out forums like this to post on.
The COVID19 virus has had a silver lining for me in that there's a lot more people on Roll20. Even so, people still have various priorities and scheduling conflicts, so group games remain ever-elusive.The Adventurer's Almanac wrote:I haven't run a game since May because for a while my players didn't want to meet in person... and then they decided they didn't want to play online, either, because they'd been playing Dungeon World over Discord and it was way easier for them than playing PTU. Kinda left me up shit creek, honestly. What's the fucking point of being unemployed if nobody will meet up to play games?
You’re pretty much the only one thats anywhere close to the truth, but it’s still a bit colored by your own politics.Lago PARANOIA wrote:You people have the memories of fucking goldfish. Did y'all forget that blow-up in IMHO about coming up with acceptable reasons to kill orcs? How is THAT not political?
Let's be real here: the TGDMB was never about not being political. IMHO always had a strongly left-liberal/social democratic bent compared to other boards, which is why people like tzor and elennsar stood out when their opinions would not be considered controversial on, say, GITP.
What's really been going on is that people are uncomfortable defending their old politics now that the discourse has shifted left in preparation with what's going on with the world. FrankTrollman isn't mad about tone, he's mad that the world is moving past him. If you want to ban reminders that certain peoples' politics aren't keeping up with what's going on in anti-reactionary discourse, fine, but let's not pretend that you're not being political. You just want to keep TGDMB sitting comfortably at the left edge of liberalism.
And whats interesting is that its always the ones who are least confident in the validity of their own views who always make a lot of hay about “tone” to begin with.erik wrote:Always interesting to hear other people’s wildly different perspectives. Weird to hear them with the tone that suggests an authority of factuality, but you do you.
Libertad wrote:Kaelik claiming that Biden voters are pro-genocide, even say southern black voters and others who view Biden as a “safe bet” and worrying about Bernie being too radically alienating,
I'm confused by statements like this. I thought I made very clear who I think is responsible for the bad things that have happened and will happen when bad Democrats are in power, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, the DCCC blackballing anyone who supports a challenger, Barack Obama telling Buttigieg to drop out and endorse Biden, and who isn't responsible, random voters being mislead and manipulated by systematic factors.fbmf wrote:"a vote for either major candidate will kill all of human civilization"
Kaelik wrote:Libertad wrote:Kaelik claiming that Biden voters are pro-genocide, even say southern black voters and others who view Biden as a “safe bet” and worrying about Bernie being too radically alienating,I'm confused by statements like this. I thought I made very clear who I think is responsible for the bad things that have happened and will happen when bad Democrats are in power, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, the DCCC blackballing anyone who supports a challenger, Barack Obama telling Buttigieg to drop out and endorse Biden, and who isn't responsible, random voters being mislead and manipulated by systematic factors.fbmf wrote:"a vote for either major candidate will kill all of human civilization"
I repeatedly outlined that 85% of people's votes literally don't matter, that media and powerful figures manipulate and direct public sentiment, that the allocation of dollars decides how votes will turn out, and that the information needed to make decisions is deliberately withheld from voters. I changed my signature to explicitly express my contempt for the idea that voters actually decide the outcomes of elections and the laws that are passed between elections. I argued repeatedly against the assorted people engaging in vote shaming and blaming individual voters or voters as a collective for the results of elections or elite decisions each time it came up.
What else was I supposed to do to convince people that I blame Joe Biden for his actions and the people who choose him to be the nominee like Barack Obama, not some random person who's vote distributed 1/10000th of a delegate at a convention where Biden needed 3000 delegates voting in a system that is fundamentally designed to mislead them and constrain their choice.
Game On,Kaelik wrote: The correct way for Deaddm to phrase that would be "every single person I know who decided to support Biden, including me, did so because they thought it would be a good idea to give up any chance of saving the planet from total destruction or ever improving anything at all because the media told us that a thing no one could possibly know was true."