Your Favorite Things from the Tomes
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Your Favorite Things from the Tomes
This seemed to deserve it's own thread. I'll lead off.
I like the martial classes. Especially the weird PrCs.
Things like Dungeon Veteran, Progenitor of the Gith, Death Knight, and Bone Rider all rock my socks.
I like the martial classes. Especially the weird PrCs.
Things like Dungeon Veteran, Progenitor of the Gith, Death Knight, and Bone Rider all rock my socks.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Scaling feats are one of the simple, yet incredibly time-consuming fixes that I really appreciate someone doing the work on. Hands down, my favorite.
The interesting approach to cultures and race relations is a close second.
And my all time favorite line:
"Hey, we're fucking Cloud Giants! We conquered you, okay?"
The interesting approach to cultures and race relations is a close second.
And my all time favorite line:
"Hey, we're fucking Cloud Giants! We conquered you, okay?"
Monk also gets a vote here for:
[*]Fixing the problems
[*]Being interesting (and offering real choices)
[*]Yet somehow being something that people accept in their games even when they don't like most Tome stuff.
That said, weird Prestige Classes - Pumpkin King, BEEEEEEEEEEEES and who can forget, Elothar, Half Elf Warrior of Bladereach.
[*]Fixing the problems
[*]Being interesting (and offering real choices)
[*]Yet somehow being something that people accept in their games even when they don't like most Tome stuff.
That said, weird Prestige Classes - Pumpkin King, BEEEEEEEEEEEES and who can forget, Elothar, Half Elf Warrior of Bladereach.
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Nature flavoured necromantic PrCs like Pumpkin King and Lurker in the Swarm, mostly for pumpkin bombs and jack o lantern headed skeletons and undead bees with obsidian hives implanted in their chests (no reason you can't do this)
Scaling Feats (more options and powers are always good)
All the flavour stuff, especially the "Lazy Hyena men made of awesome" and pointing out the generation discrepancy of dwarves and goblins.
Necromantic feats, awesome for making it possible for my first level character to have zombies and skeletons following him around.
Scaling Feats (more options and powers are always good)
All the flavour stuff, especially the "Lazy Hyena men made of awesome" and pointing out the generation discrepancy of dwarves and goblins.
Necromantic feats, awesome for making it possible for my first level character to have zombies and skeletons following him around.
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1) All the fluff and adventure hooks.
2) The classes that are about doing differnt cool stuff every round, but not based on uses a day, Monk/Conduits with expert Access/lots of Community classes that wouldn't exist in that form without the inspiration of balancing to Tome level, and at will being okay.
2 doesn't apply to the martial classes, because they don't do different things, they just do one thing too fucking well, just like they did in non Tome.
3) Immediate action counters built into classes. This should be mandatory, every class should have an ability to use immediate actions for something. Fighter 5fts and foil action are really good, and would be great not attached to a giant feat engine.
2) The classes that are about doing differnt cool stuff every round, but not based on uses a day, Monk/Conduits with expert Access/lots of Community classes that wouldn't exist in that form without the inspiration of balancing to Tome level, and at will being okay.
2 doesn't apply to the martial classes, because they don't do different things, they just do one thing too fucking well, just like they did in non Tome.
3) Immediate action counters built into classes. This should be mandatory, every class should have an ability to use immediate actions for something. Fighter 5fts and foil action are really good, and would be great not attached to a giant feat engine.
Unrestricted Diplomat 5314 wrote:Accept this truth, as the wisdom of the Crafted: when the oppressors and abusers have won, when the boot of the callous has already trampled you flat, you should always, always take your swing."
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I like the fluff and world building things.
The discussion of necromancy and negative energy is a great one, as is the various discussions of races like the Sahaugin and the Kua-Toa. The tomes really made most of those races come alive for me, where as before I honestly just thought the Sahaugin were another monster.
The discussion of necromancy and negative energy is a great one, as is the various discussions of races like the Sahaugin and the Kua-Toa. The tomes really made most of those races come alive for me, where as before I honestly just thought the Sahaugin were another monster.
Actually I also agree on the bit where so much community stuff happened as a result of the Tomes.
And the stuff on Sahuagin is also cool. There should be a campaign setting that is largely ocean and small (tropical) islands, with it stated that Sahuagin are the rulers of the sea and the campaign world divided into surface and aquatic. That would rule.
And the stuff on Sahuagin is also cool. There should be a campaign setting that is largely ocean and small (tropical) islands, with it stated that Sahuagin are the rulers of the sea and the campaign world divided into surface and aquatic. That would rule.
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Pretty much all the blocks of text that don't really have mechanics attached to them.
This also includes (even if it has some mechanics to it) the race writeups, the culture writeups, the economicon, thhe dngeonomicon, socialonomicon.
This also includes (even if it has some mechanics to it) the race writeups, the culture writeups, the economicon, thhe dngeonomicon, socialonomicon.
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+1RandomCasualty2 wrote:I like the fluff and world building things.
The discussion of necromancy and negative energy is a great one, as is the various discussions of races like the Sahaugin and the Kua-Toa. The tomes really made most of those races come alive for me, where as before I honestly just thought the Sahaugin were another monster.
+2 on the discussion on Negative energy. Really helped me put final touches on an Undead Heavy Campaign I was running and the subsequent undead took over the world campaign.
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Giant Frog!
"But transportation issues are social-justice issues. The toll of bad transit policies and worse infrastructure—trains and buses that don’t run well and badly serve low-income neighborhoods, vehicular traffic that pollutes the environment and endangers the lives of cyclists and pedestrians—is borne disproportionately by black and brown communities."
The sense of having versatility with almost every class.
The tone of writing.
The fluff.
The Book of Gears.
The simple, out of the box playability.
The tone of writing.
The fluff.
The Book of Gears.
The simple, out of the box playability.
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Your mom.
Yes, yours.
And the new classes of blue.
Yes, yours.
And the new classes of blue.
Current pet peeves:
Misuse of "per se". It means "[in] itself", not "precisely". Learn English.
Malformed singular possessives. It's almost always supposed to be 's.
Misuse of "per se". It means "[in] itself", not "precisely". Learn English.
Malformed singular possessives. It's almost always supposed to be 's.
Good point. I thought "your mum" jokes were old*. But the Tomes totally brought them back into fashion**. Or maybe that's just Frank's regular insults more than the Tomes.NineInchNall wrote:Your mom.
*Old like your mum
**They also brought your mum back into fashion
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I really like the Assassin.
Fluff-wise, I really like the Thermodynamicon, etc. They all just really helped the D&D world come to life for me.
Sadly, I haven't really had any experience with the prestige classes.
Fluff-wise, I really like the Thermodynamicon, etc. They all just really helped the D&D world come to life for me.
Sadly, I haven't really had any experience with the prestige classes.
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