A golden shower a day keeps the doctor a day

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:15 pm

There's apparently alternative treatment that says if you drink or massage yourself with your own urine, you would become immune to hemmorhoids. What the fuck causes people to believe shit like this?

mean_liar · Post by **mean_liar** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:26 pm

The healing power of urine?

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:40 pm

Well, back in the day people believed that bathing caused insanity and cocaine was an amazing mind-clearer and to pacify your two-year-old you should dose them with this stuff that, I can't remember what was in it. Morphine? Laudanum? Something.

Which is responsible for twos being called 'terrible twos" because for most parents, it was.

Oh yeah, and bleeding and cupping and mercury makes you live forever...

K · Post by K » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:52 am

Mystical thinking is a basic flaw in human brain design. It's the same kind of thinking that makes people kill someone over religion (because hey, all powerful gods could never do it themselves).

Heck, it's the same kind of thinking that gets people to invest in the stock market or vote Republican. I've decided the problem can't be solved.

But they need to keep their damned urine away from me.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:03 am

The argument I get from a lot of people that urine is sterile because it's filtered.

It seems that I am unable to convince people that urine is filtrate, which is completely utterly different. And that urine is by no stretch of the imagination sterile. And that even if it was, so is bleach.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:22 am

Maxus: all kinds of things. Cocaine was good for teething (let's be fair, it'd be fucking GREAT for teething, if you ignore the side-effects of giving cocaine to an infant, such as them being hyperactive, even more of an intolerable shit than usual, and of course death). But often they sold morphine, laudinum, heroine and codeine all as medicine to shut your infants up.

And sometimes it really did shut them up. Properly.

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:The argument I get from a lot of people that urine is sterile because it's filtered.

This makes my brain hurt, it's that stupid.

Granted, the Dalai Lama has that whole "Don't buy evil corporate medicine, just drink my piss" thing going, and many people think you should urinate on a jellyfish sting (no, use salt water. If it's a box jellyfish, apply lead in 9mm dosages until pain has stopped).

People always seem to think piss will help you. That said, I imagine coating yourself in the stuff WILL keep doctors away. Along with everyone else.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:34 am

Silly human. You are not a dog. Why you pee on people?

Shiritai · Post by **Shiritai** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:15 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:The argument I get from a lot of people that urine is sterile because it's filtered.

It seems that I am unable to convince people that urine is filtrate, which is completely utterly different. And that urine is by no stretch of the imagination sterile. And that even if it was, so is bleach.

Urine is sterile, as long as you don't have a UTI or something. In a survival setting you can even keep hydrated, or a least lessen your dehydration, by drinking your own urine. At least until it's too concentrated.

I am so very glad I'll never have to do that.

violence in the media · Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:26 pm

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:24 pm

Shiritai wrote:
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:The argument I get from a lot of people that urine is sterile because it's filtered.

It seems that I am unable to convince people that urine is filtrate, which is completely utterly different. And that urine is by no stretch of the imagination sterile. And that even if it was, so is bleach.
Urine is sterile, as long as you don't have a UTI or something. In a survival setting you can even keep hydrated, or a least lessen your dehydration, by drinking your own urine. At least until it's too concentrated.

I am so very glad I'll never have to do that.

I don't know why you think your bladder is the one place in the planet that doesn't have crap growing in it. It's not sterile, and even if it was sterile it would no longer be so the very second it touched the air.

Also, drinking your own urine to survive longer is like drinking seawater to survive longer.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:10 pm

Count, urine is more sterile than any other non-vital fluid that you can get in the wild without filtration. If it's sufficiently dilute then it's hypotonic to your body, unlike seawater.

I'm not advocating that you should go around bathing in and drinking your own piss (unless that's what it takes to get your rocks off), but in a survival situation knowing this sort of thing is important.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:33 pm

Saying your urine is the most sterile fluid in your body is like saying that the crap you took today didn't stink anywhere near as bad as the crap you took yesterday. Human bodies are actually pretty disgusting in general.

And from what I've read, the idea that drinking your own urine is beneficial is a hard-dying urban myth. Unless you're drinking the half-gallon of water a day that popular media keeps claiming, your urine isn't going to be hypotonic.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:21 pm

CatharzGodfoot wrote:but in a survival situation knowing this sort of thing is important.

Bah, death by dehydration can take a couple of days. Knowing you drank your own piss is for life.

Sashi · Post by **Sashi** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:52 am

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I don't know why you think your bladder is the one place in the planet that doesn't have crap growing in it. It's not sterile, and even if it was sterile it would no longer be so the very second it touched the air.

You have an .... interesting understanding of germ theory.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:04 am

I think I'm going to start Shit therapy. You eat the shit that everyone tells you wholeheartedly. Wait, that's the normal human thinking process. I wonder if I could still make money off of this.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:13 am

Cynic wrote:I think I'm going to start Shit therapy. You eat the shit that everyone tells you wholeheartedly. Wait, that's the normal human thinking process. I wonder if I could still make money off of this.

That's a shitty idea.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:15 am

Oh, Sigma, you crack me up. Now go eat shit. Also pay me 100$.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:19 am

It was actually pretty funny.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:38 am

Cynic wrote:Oh, Sigma, you crack me up. Now go eat shit. Also pay me 100$.

I'll... I'll pass. This is as good an idea as a Qi Gong cult taking on the Chinese government.

Calibron · Post by **Calibron** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:08 am

Are there Qi Gong cults?

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:14 am

Hmm... some way to combine the two. A gestalt if you may.

A shit-based qui gong cult that demands money from the CHinese govt for services of rendered.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:22 am

You realize the Chinese government will have you shot for that, and they'll charge your family for the bullet they used to shoot you?

Ganbare Gincun · Post by **Ganbare Gincun** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:56 am

Oh, so R. Kelly was just practicing alternative medicine?

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:13 pm

Count, there is a significant difference between urine and faeces. The digestive system is filled with bacteria of all sorts (and some other things at times we would rather not like to mention like worms and stuff). The appendix was probably a place to store bacteria in times of trouble, because bacteria are needed for digestion and absorption of nutrients. It’s crap in the intestines … literally.

The kidneys are devices to filter chemicals from the body (and most of the really nasty ones actually get filtered out through the sweat glands) and for reducing nitrogen build-up in the blood in the form of ammonia by creating uric acid. This acid can’t stay in the blood … the result of it doing so is called “gout” and is very painful. So the uric acid is voided through the kidneys through the bladder and out of the body.

The kidneys excrete a variety of waste products produced by metabolism. These include the nitrogenous wastes urea, from protein catabolism, and uric acid, from nucleic acid metabolism.

The result is relatively (compared to faeces) sterile liquid. That’s why you have non disposable products like “She Wee” (as long as the non stick product results in a rapid dry, there is no threat from long term contamination by exposure to urine.

P.S. Yes, they secretly changed by word editor to UK English. So what?

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:03 am

Hey, tzor! Nice to see you're still kicking around!