Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.
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The fourth Indiana Jones movie was god awful.
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I thought it was entertaining. Not necessarily good, but I've long since stopped expecting Hollywood to make good movies, and have settled for entertaining ones.
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So, I started a book called Mainspring, by one Jay Lake.
The dedication mentions Loren Coleman and Lincoln City.
The idea is this:
Watchmaker God. Literally. The Earth orbits the sun on a brass track that you can see curving away into the sky, and the point where the earth contacts the track is midnight. People set their clocks by that because they can hear the noise.
It orbits thanks to the gear at the Equator. A hundred-mile high rock wall capped with a giant brass band with gear teeth.
It's 1900, and England never lost America.
Our Hero, one Hethor, is told on, literally page two, by Gabriel the Angel (who turns out to be living brass with wings of silver), that the world is winding down and the Mainspring needs to be rewound and Hethor got elected.
I keep noticing religious ideas here. Hethor is your perfect religious boy who resist temptation when it counts.
When his master's sons accuse him of theft, he doesn't beg for forgiveness because he didn't do anything wrong. He gets turned out of his home and his teaching because of this.
He's on the way to Queen Victoria's representative in America to plead his case, and gets a ride on a wagon driven by a sixteen-year-old girl and causes Hethor to freak the fuck out because he's never dealt with girls and females aren't supposed to be trusted with this. So he's sixteen and it describes in loving detail how he gets a raging boner when she's around and making sly comments about how she wouldn't mind snuggling up to him to stay warm at night.
He doesn't take the offer. When he's away, he lets his junk out to cool off but "didn't touch it because that way lay sin and madness as everyone knew".
I keep noticing some things. They don't say "fuck" they say "fewk". No one's said "God-damn" yet, but one guy said "Billy-damned"
There's several other things, but I'm only halfway through so I'll let you know how it goes.
The scene with the girl kinda squicked me. I can understand -not- sleeping with a girl just because she has the right body parts and seems and she seems amenable to the idea, but how much detail it went over Hethor's crotch and how it felt when the hormones were playing up?
Yick.
Edit: Just realized. They keep mentioning Jesus and Christianity in here. It's the default of the entire Western world. But they have mentioned no Judaism and no Islam, as I recall. Despite this being around the end of the Ottoman Empire where the Ottomans got their butts kicked a few times.
The dedication mentions Loren Coleman and Lincoln City.
The idea is this:
Watchmaker God. Literally. The Earth orbits the sun on a brass track that you can see curving away into the sky, and the point where the earth contacts the track is midnight. People set their clocks by that because they can hear the noise.
It orbits thanks to the gear at the Equator. A hundred-mile high rock wall capped with a giant brass band with gear teeth.
It's 1900, and England never lost America.
Our Hero, one Hethor, is told on, literally page two, by Gabriel the Angel (who turns out to be living brass with wings of silver), that the world is winding down and the Mainspring needs to be rewound and Hethor got elected.
I keep noticing religious ideas here. Hethor is your perfect religious boy who resist temptation when it counts.
When his master's sons accuse him of theft, he doesn't beg for forgiveness because he didn't do anything wrong. He gets turned out of his home and his teaching because of this.
He's on the way to Queen Victoria's representative in America to plead his case, and gets a ride on a wagon driven by a sixteen-year-old girl and causes Hethor to freak the fuck out because he's never dealt with girls and females aren't supposed to be trusted with this. So he's sixteen and it describes in loving detail how he gets a raging boner when she's around and making sly comments about how she wouldn't mind snuggling up to him to stay warm at night.
He doesn't take the offer. When he's away, he lets his junk out to cool off but "didn't touch it because that way lay sin and madness as everyone knew".
I keep noticing some things. They don't say "fuck" they say "fewk". No one's said "God-damn" yet, but one guy said "Billy-damned"
There's several other things, but I'm only halfway through so I'll let you know how it goes.
The scene with the girl kinda squicked me. I can understand -not- sleeping with a girl just because she has the right body parts and seems and she seems amenable to the idea, but how much detail it went over Hethor's crotch and how it felt when the hormones were playing up?
Yick.
Edit: Just realized. They keep mentioning Jesus and Christianity in here. It's the default of the entire Western world. But they have mentioned no Judaism and no Islam, as I recall. Despite this being around the end of the Ottoman Empire where the Ottomans got their butts kicked a few times.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
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--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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SPIDER-MAN MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO ABORT HIS BABY OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOO...
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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One thing about the Indiana Jones movie...
The movie reveals the aliens are information gathers in the extreme, they have been gathering knowledge since forever with a stupid degree of dedication.
Bad guy lady brings back their missing skull without doing anything to offend the aliens (and little that is especially bad beyond that either).
She completes the deal the aliens were asking for, they do the whole "and what is your wish?" thing...
...She says "knowledge!"...
...and they say "KNOWLEDGE HOW DARE YOU GRLERUGLEHGUGFDFUERLD!!!!!!". And rip shit up.
The movie reveals the aliens are information gathers in the extreme, they have been gathering knowledge since forever with a stupid degree of dedication.
Bad guy lady brings back their missing skull without doing anything to offend the aliens (and little that is especially bad beyond that either).
She completes the deal the aliens were asking for, they do the whole "and what is your wish?" thing...
...She says "knowledge!"...
...and they say "KNOWLEDGE HOW DARE YOU GRLERUGLEHGUGFDFUERLD!!!!!!". And rip shit up.
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There was much about that movie that offended. Spoonyone has a youtube video on it, I believe.
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Spoony deserves one of these kinds of threads all to himself.
Josey Q can retcon it all they won't, it still won't reduce the hurting.Neeek wrote: No, no. That got retconned. Mary Jane did it. Or something. It's hard to figure out, honestly.
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Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
Oh, the retcon was worse than the original utterly horrible crap. The number of levels on which every part of that story was a complete pile of crap is astounding.Lago PARANOIA wrote:Spoony deserves one of these kinds of threads all to himself.
Josey Q can retcon it all they won't, it still won't reduce the hurting.Neeek wrote: No, no. That got retconned. Mary Jane did it. Or something. It's hard to figure out, honestly.
Watching the episode of GLEE where Rachel and Kurt sing Don't cry for me, Argentina, and I suddenly came to the realization that, while the song is beautiful, it has nothing to do with what is happening in the plot of the musical at that moment.Lago PARANOIA wrote:The Grapes of Wrath.
That ending was like having a charming young spouse who is the perfect soulmate and raising a family with them of healthy, successful children... and then on your deathbed, when you are at your final moments and reflecting on how much you love your life, your whole family jumps up onto the bed and starts taking diarrhea dumps on your face.
Why, God, why?!
I will admit that it has been a while since I saw Evita, but, IIRC...she's called out on the balcony to announce to the assembled masses that she has cancer and is dying? What does recounting her life story have to do with that?
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I'm reading the Book of Lord Shang right now.
Damn were these authors fucked in the head. It makes Judges look like a tea party.
Damn were these authors fucked in the head. It makes Judges look like a tea party.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
I just watched the first episode of the "hercules: the legendary journeys" on netflix instant watch. Man, such a wasted opportunity. he's portrayed as a brute. His solution to anything, kick, punch, barrel into things/people. Hera killed his wife, so he decides that the most vindictive thing he oculd do is topple each of her nine shrines. Really?
I also think Hercules should have been done like the Howard Conan. part trickster, part fighter. Not pure barbarian...
I also think Hercules should have been done like the Howard Conan. part trickster, part fighter. Not pure barbarian...
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It actually took Hercules quite a while to "find" itself. The first episodes are trying to be serious and it just didn't work. In the later seasons they go for a more relaxed, more comical approach to things that is a lot truer to the spirit of the original stories and way better as television. Also, Kevin Sorbo puts on like 10 pounds of muscle, which makes taking him seriously as Hercules a lot easier. Hercules and Xena both get ruined by the addition of Dahak. Good episodes happen after that, but they are few enough in numbers that it isn't really worth watching.
Still, it worked out to about 3 seasons of high quality television in the late 90s. IIRC, that's like season 2 through season 4. The period after we stop pretending that Hera is a decent main villain and start in with Hercules' petty half-brother Ares. The world is definitely richer for that having happened.
EDIT: Later on, it was stuff like this.
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Still, it worked out to about 3 seasons of high quality television in the late 90s. IIRC, that's like season 2 through season 4. The period after we stop pretending that Hera is a decent main villain and start in with Hercules' petty half-brother Ares. The world is definitely richer for that having happened.
EDIT: Later on, it was stuff like this.
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That also benefits from Ares being a physical match for Herc, so he can't just punch his way out of things as much.FrankTrollman wrote:
Still, it worked out to about 3 seasons of high quality television in the late 90s. IIRC, that's like season 2 through season 4. The period after we stop pretending that Hera is a decent main villain and start in with Hercules' petty half-brother Ares. The world is definitely richer for that having happened.
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Did anyone else think that Kreia's beggar-moralizing twist in KotoR2 was really, really stupid?
No, I take that back. It wasn't stupid, but the fact that you couldn't do anything about it other than just stare gormlessly like she made an unassailable point and that's all that comes of it pissed me off. I would've liked it much better if it let the PC make a sensible rebuttal or even 'you're obviously a goddamn Sith, take a hike'.
It's like the Tenpenny Tower thing. What didn't make me mad was the quest pulling a Chrono Cross on you, what made me mad was that the quest stopped after pulling a Chrono Cross on you. You weren't even allowed to go 'you fucking bastard'.
No, I take that back. It wasn't stupid, but the fact that you couldn't do anything about it other than just stare gormlessly like she made an unassailable point and that's all that comes of it pissed me off. I would've liked it much better if it let the PC make a sensible rebuttal or even 'you're obviously a goddamn Sith, take a hike'.
It's like the Tenpenny Tower thing. What didn't make me mad was the quest pulling a Chrono Cross on you, what made me mad was that the quest stopped after pulling a Chrono Cross on you. You weren't even allowed to go 'you fucking bastard'.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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Can you be a bit more specific ? I played both games a while ago and I'm not sure I completely understand what you're referring to, and I'm curious.Lago PARANOIA wrote:Did anyone else think that Kreia's beggar-moralizing twist in KotoR2 was really, really stupid?
No, I take that back. It wasn't stupid, but the fact that you couldn't do anything about it other than just stare gormlessly like she made an unassailable point and that's all that comes of it pissed me off. I would've liked it much better if it let the PC make a sensible rebuttal or even 'you're obviously a goddamn Sith, take a hike'.
It's like the Tenpenny Tower thing. What didn't make me mad was the quest pulling a Chrono Cross on you, what made me mad was that the quest stopped after pulling a Chrono Cross on you. You weren't even allowed to go 'you fucking bastard'.
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Also, this current Order of the Stick plot is giving me flashbacks to the fucking Thieves' Guild / Therkla / Deal With The Devils arc, in which the plot can only advance if people start being dicks for no real reason and don't say things that they normally should.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
I located the beggar bit on TVTropes. She might as well have said, "HEY IDIOT, I'M A SITH LORD!"
Honestly, that's just really blatantly quoted from the standard Sith philosophies.
Honestly, that's just really blatantly quoted from the standard Sith philosophies.
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You'll have to elaborate a bit there, Lago.
Right now, OotS plot is guaranteed to advance, because there's a gladiatorial combat real soon. *Something* has to happen by then, or right then, regardless of how the characters behave.
Right now, OotS plot is guaranteed to advance, because there's a gladiatorial combat real soon. *Something* has to happen by then, or right then, regardless of how the characters behave.
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Any time a piece of literature has a random dueling scene. Unless it somehow advances the plot, fighting shouldn't be happening, especially when it carries no real risk. If it's just there to look cool, it needs to take a hike because it's boring. This is especially true in books. At least with a visual medium, it can look cool.
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Today's (it might've been posted yesterday, I don't know) OotS was pretty shitty (unlike a lot of more recent ones).
Rich is doing that stupid thing where you're randomly supposed to care about some badguys despite gleefully ignoring how most badguys are cheerfully slaughtered. You as the reader have no reason to care about those two dinosaurdudes. At all. They've gotten pretty much no characterization, they've been just as dickish as Belkar but not nearly as entertaining. It was a blatant attempt to pull at your heartstrings and it fail'd.
Rich is doing that stupid thing where you're randomly supposed to care about some badguys despite gleefully ignoring how most badguys are cheerfully slaughtered. You as the reader have no reason to care about those two dinosaurdudes. At all. They've gotten pretty much no characterization, they've been just as dickish as Belkar but not nearly as entertaining. It was a blatant attempt to pull at your heartstrings and it fail'd.
Out beyond the hull, mucoid strings of non-baryonic matter streamed past like Christ's blood in the firmament.
