"Anthro" template

[Prak]

k, so my girlfriend was intrigued by the idea of playing a catfolk from races of rabbit fvcking, but she doesn't like them, or rather, they don't seem like cats to her, so, once it came to mind, I presentd the idea of using the anthro template from savage species, but the question is, objectively, how is it? Is it too weak, too strong, dependent upon what you apply it too, and how do I figure out ecl for templates in a tome game?

[Endovior]

I would answer, but...

'races of rabbit fvcking'

[Cielingcat]

That's what we call it here.

And the anthro template is so horrible it makes Baby Jesus cry, even though God hates furries.

I know it's true 'cause I read it on the internet.

[shirak]

1185946606[/unixtime]]I would answer, but...

'races of rabbit fvcking'

We have some pretty strange names floating around here. Here's a list I keep with the most common variations:

* "It's Hot Outside" = Sandstorm
* "It's Cold Outside" = Frostburn
* "It's Wet Outside" = Stormwrack
* "D&D Joke Book" = Epic Level Handbook
* "Races of Rabbit Fucking" = Races of the Wild.
* "Races of Short" = Races of Stone
* "Tome of Wet Tissues: Book of Nine Papercuts" = Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords
* "Complete Garbage" = Complete Mage
* "Complete Lack of Innovation" = Complete Scoundrel
* "Calamari Cooking!" = Lords of Madness
* "Skip Hates Sorcerers" = Tome & Blood
* "Sticks & Stones" = Masters of the Wild
* "Lute and Loot" = Song and Silence
* "It's Not Outside" = Dungeonscape
* "It's Crowded Outside" = Cityscape

There's a thread around that has a few more.

[Draco_Argentum]

Anthro is the crappiest template ever made. The power level of the results is all over the shop. Not only that, the power level is non sensical. I forget the exact example but putting it on large animals sometimes results in them having less strength than a similar but weaker base creature.

The flavour is also shit. You end up with a collection of stat bonuses. You can make that up yourself.

[Prak]

yeah, I sat down to write it up from memory and realized that all it really should do is change size and type, other than that, use the normal animal stats...

does that sound good?

[MrWaeseL]

We have some pretty strange names floating around here. Here's a list I keep with the most common variations:

* "It's Hot Outside" = Sandstorm
* "It's Cold Outside" = Frostburn
* "It's Wet Outside" = Stormwrack
* "D&D Joke Book" = Epic Level Handbook
* "Races of Rabbit fvcking" = Races of the Wild.
* "Races of Short" = Races of Stone
* "Tome of Wet Tissues: Book of Nine Papercuts" = Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords
* "Complete Garbage" = Complete Mage
* "Complete Lack of Innovation" = Complete Scoundrel
* "Calamari Cooking!" = Lords of Madness
* "Skip Hates Sorcerers" = Tome & Blood
* "Sticks & Stones" = Masters of the Wild
* "Lute and Loot" = Song and Silence
* "It's Not Outside" = Dungeonscape
* "It's Crowded Outside" = Cityscape

There's a thread around that has a few more.

It's Not Outside is the best one of those

[Fwib]

Apply the template to the base animal. If the player doesn't like the result, but it will be ok with a little bit of tweaking, tweak it a little. If the player doesn't like the result at all, try something else.

Once you have something the player likes, if you are using LA and not some variant (like Frank&K's HD=ECL method) then figure out an LA that seems sensible to you and the players.

Whatever you do, do not use the LAs in the example creatures as a guide, since they range from zero for the Baleen Whale - which is quite good, all the way to far too many, for others, which suck, so I don't remember them.

[Catharz]

How about just asking her what she wants them to be like and write that up as a base race?

I mean, abilities for a catgirl race could be anything from 'Ears, fangs, and tail of cuteness -- fascinate any anime fanboys within 600 feet' to 'Low-light vision, speed 40', and pounce: claw claw bite rake.'

[RandomCasualty]

1185960170[/unixtime]]
It's Not Outside is the best one of those

I personally liked "It's Inside Outside" better though

[Jacob_Orlove]

1185983352[/unixtime]]
Whatever you do, do not use the LAs in the example creatures as a guide, since they range from zero for the Baleen Whale - which is quite good, all the way to far too many, for others, which suck, so I don't remember them.

Forget the Baleen Whale, that template suggests zero LA (and no racial hit dice) for the Bat, which gets +6 Wisdom, small size, and a fly speed. I'm not sure why first level druids needed to be twice as good as normal, but there it is.

[Fwib]

1185994302[/unixtime]]

1185983352[/unixtime]]
Whatever you do, do not use the LAs in the example creatures as a guide, since they range from zero for the Baleen Whale - which is quite good, all the way to far too many, for others, which suck, so I don't remember them.

Forget the Baleen Whale, that template suggests zero LA (and no racial hit dice) for the Bat, which gets +6 Wisdom, small size, and a fly speed. I'm not sure why first level druids needed to be twice as good as normal, but there it is.

Oh yeah, I forgot that - 'cos until recently I never played a caster.

[Prak]

1185990475[/unixtime]]How about just asking her what she wants them to be like and write that up as a base race?

I mean, abilities for a catgirl race could be anything from 'Ears, fangs, and tail of cuteness -- fascinate any anime fanboys within 600 feet' to 'Low-light vision, speed 40', and pounce: claw claw bite rake.'

she's going more for the Low-light vision, speed 40', pounce.. she'll either play an anthro cat or an anthro tiger, and I think I'll just tell her to adjust the cat/tiger stats to be small/medium and use those.

[shirak]

1185960170[/unixtime]]
It's Not Outside is the best one of those

Hell yeah. It's too bad we don't get to use it very often.

1185990628[/unixtime]]I personally liked "It's Inside Outside" better though

I like the "It's One-Syllable-Word Outside" naming convention myself. I hate It's Crowded Outside but can't come up with a good alternative so I tolerate it. But I fucking love It's Not Outside as a name.

[Crissa]

I too prefered inside-outside.

It's not outside just makes my Warcraft Druid cry.

-Crissa

[MrWaeseL]

but it's inside outside makes no sense, because it's inside inside. The outside is not the dungeon.

[Prak]

what about "Hey, We're Inside" or "Now We're Inside"

[Fwib]

I hunted about for a single-syllable word that meant 'crowded (with people)' but the best I could find was 'mobbed' and Its Mobbed Outside doesn't sound right.

[Manxome]

It's Cramped Outside?

[JonSetanta]

How about "Smelly and Crowded" for Cityscape? That would also describe Baltimore.

[fbmf]

[TGFBS]
Back to topic, folks.
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[Immortius]

Tell her to play the Cheshire cat from here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn ... ][br]Might as well push the idea all the way and play as a straight cat.

Edit: "It's unhygienic outside"?