PhoneLobster at [unixtime wrote:1177984335[/unixtime]]
wrote:a fully optimized fighter going against a tied up drugged up wizard...that's underwater.
The wizard would win.
The fully optimized fighter didn't waste ranks on some conditional thing like swimming and was busy cross class skilling his limited supply for spot/listen/tumble. He also has a big giant swim penalty from his heavy armour and other heavy junk. He arguably sinks.
The wizard has water breathing at at least 10 hours duration from level 5. He cast it before being tied and drugged up. Some might complain at his casting it then, but he is prepared to forgo all actions during the "combat" in return.
The "pro-Fighter" people would literally consider that to be biased in favor of the Wizard. Seriously, any scenario in which the Wizard has ever cast a spell in his life is unacceptable to those fuckers.
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Josh_Kablack wrote:You are not a unique and precious snowflake, you are just one more fucking asshole on the internet who presumes themselves to be better than the unwashed masses.
Cielingcat at [unixtime wrote:1177987260[/unixtime]] The "pro-Fighter" people would literally consider that to be biased in favor of the Wizard. Seriously, any scenario in which the Wizard has ever cast a spell in his life is unacceptable to those fvckers.
He shits you not. They are just about the most intellectually dishonest fuckers on the planet. I'm not entirely certain how that level of cognitive dissonance can coexist with the ability to form coherent sentences. (cf. itwasntme)
Wow, I just realized that I'm feeling really profane right now. Fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck. Jyeah, baby.
Oh, and thanks for jumping into the Arcane Strike fray. I didn't feel capable of rendering a civil reply to the contention that his highly contrived situation has any bearing on anything at all, whatsoever.
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Cielingcat at [unixtime wrote:1177987260[/unixtime]]
PhoneLobster at [unixtime wrote:1177984335[/unixtime]]
wrote:a fully optimized fighter going against a tied up drugged up wizard...that's underwater.
The wizard would win.
The fully optimized fighter didn't waste ranks on some conditional thing like swimming and was busy cross class skilling his limited supply for spot/listen/tumble. He also has a big giant swim penalty from his heavy armour and other heavy junk. He arguably sinks.
The wizard has water breathing at at least 10 hours duration from level 5. He cast it before being tied and drugged up. Some might complain at his casting it then, but he is prepared to forgo all actions during the "combat" in return.
The "pro-Fighter" people would literally consider that to be biased in favor of the Wizard. Seriously, any scenario in which the Wizard has ever cast a spell in his life is unacceptable to those fvckers.
I've seen one 7th level wizard with Sudden Silent who kept Dimension Door prepped all the time, and I've played a 9th level wizard who frequently had Silent Dimension Door prepped. Both had rather twinked Concentration skills, and could probably have sucessfully made concentration DCs to cast assuming that "drugged up" doesn't mean "totally unconscious".
I've only ever seen one fighter type to have a swim skill of +10 or better, and that was more due to strength twinking than to being prepared for underwater combat.
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Josh_Kablack at [unixtime wrote:1178001555[/unixtime] I've seen one 7th level wizard with Sudden Silent who kept Dimension Door prepped all the time, and I've played a 9th level wizard who frequently had Silent Dimension Door prepped. Both had rather twinked Concentration skills, and could probably have sucessfully made concentration DCs to cast assuming that "drugged up" doesn't mean "totally unconscious".
I've only ever seen one fighter type to have a swim skill of +10 or better, and that was more due to strength twinking than to being prepared for underwater combat.
However, their Fighters would have max ranks in swim, a weapon usable underwater, a ring of water breathing, freedom of movement, and whatever else they needed. The Wizard would have to drown, because "OH NOES HE DOSNT NO HE NEEDZ DIMENSION DOOR!!!!!!!!!"
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Josh_Kablack wrote:You are not a unique and precious snowflake, you are just one more fucking asshole on the internet who presumes themselves to be better than the unwashed masses.
Cielingcat at [unixtime wrote:1178018943[/unixtime]] However, their Fighters would have max ranks in swim, a weapon usable underwater, a ring of water breathing, freedom of movement, and whatever else they needed. The Wizard would have to drown, because "OH NOES HE DOSNT NO HE NEEDZ DIMENSION DOOR!!!!!!!!!"
Well, I don't know, I see this argument go both ways. There are so many times that I see wizard people claim that their wizard always has the proper contingency activated for like whatever the other guy might do.
I mean... does any wizard actually have a contingency to instantly teleport back to base if he's attacked? I see that used on the boards so often it's crazy.
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Koumei wrote:I'm just glad that Jill Stein stayed true to her homeopathic principles by trying to win with .2% of the vote. She just hasn't diluted it enough!
Koumei wrote:I am disappointed in Santorum: he should carry his dead election campaign to term!
Just a heads up... Your post is pregnant... When you miss that many periods it's just a given.
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Squirrelloid wrote:Everyone has reasons to want downtime, the wizard is just doomed to be a lonely old man because he spends his downtime secluded in his tower working on stuff and not romancing the tavern wenches or marrying the princess.
That's why you research Nap and gain 7 hours per day.
Creating an item requires one day per 1,000 gp in the item’s base price, with a minimum of at least one day.
No reason this requires you to work for 8 hours. Or 16. Or more than a half an hour tinkering.
Wizards have plenty of time to play cleric and penitent with the local wenches.
AlphaNerd wrote:Wizards have plenty of time to play cleric and penitent with the local wenches.
Local Wenches or Altar Boys/ Cute Wizard Apprentices. There's a difference. I think sorcerers get the best of the wenches (you know, the sensitive types).
Of all the deities associated with WoTC, which one is most likely to have pedophile clerics?
Oh, and the answer is the priests of the Greek gods.
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Josh_Kablack wrote:You are not a unique and precious snowflake, you are just one more fucking asshole on the internet who presumes themselves to be better than the unwashed masses.
Koumei wrote:I'm just glad that Jill Stein stayed true to her homeopathic principles by trying to win with .2% of the vote. She just hasn't diluted it enough!
Koumei wrote:I am disappointed in Santorum: he should carry his dead election campaign to term!
Just a heads up... Your post is pregnant... When you miss that many periods it's just a given.
I want him to tongue-punch my box.
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The divine in me says the divine in you should go fuck itself.
Gotta be, how else can you explain this "If you want more proof, we can look at the world's only real life bird/mammal hybrid, the duck billed platypus, and they excrete like mammals, not birds."
Why does the power word question keep coming up when the answer is in the PHB?
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