We should make a Dictionary of Den-speak
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We should make a Dictionary of Den-speak
A casual view of the boards shows that the Gaming Den created its own slogans and terms for various RPG tropes.
I believe that this board needs a dictionary of sorts for all the terms. If such a thread exists already, I apologize for wasting 30 seconds of your life.
I'll start.
Mister Cavern: MC for short, Mister Cavern's a term for the gamemaster in the RPG Draci Doupe Plus. DD+ was first published in the Czech Republic during the days of the old Soviet Union. Adopted by the Gaming Den as an alternative to the Dungeon Master label.
Magical Tea Party: MTP for short. A term for describing the "make it up" advice in RPG texts when some event or action is not covered by the rules.
It's _______ Outside: A nickname for the various 3.5 environment books. Eventually gained popularity on many other D&D message boards. I cannot confirm the origin of the term, but it's earliest posts seem to be here. Clarification?
I believe that this board needs a dictionary of sorts for all the terms. If such a thread exists already, I apologize for wasting 30 seconds of your life.
I'll start.
Mister Cavern: MC for short, Mister Cavern's a term for the gamemaster in the RPG Draci Doupe Plus. DD+ was first published in the Czech Republic during the days of the old Soviet Union. Adopted by the Gaming Den as an alternative to the Dungeon Master label.
Magical Tea Party: MTP for short. A term for describing the "make it up" advice in RPG texts when some event or action is not covered by the rules.
It's _______ Outside: A nickname for the various 3.5 environment books. Eventually gained popularity on many other D&D message boards. I cannot confirm the origin of the term, but it's earliest posts seem to be here. Clarification?
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Sounds good.
Dumb-ass melee fighter: DMF for short, refers to a character who exclusively depends on melee weaponry and lacks the capacity to handle threats that are airborne, highly mobile, or otherwise difficult/impossible to reach in hand-to-hand.
Fighters can't have nice things: Refers to the philosophy that fighters have no abilities beyond hitting people with swords, and thus cannot fly, mind-control people, leap tall buildings in a single bound
Dumb-ass melee fighter: DMF for short, refers to a character who exclusively depends on melee weaponry and lacks the capacity to handle threats that are airborne, highly mobile, or otherwise difficult/impossible to reach in hand-to-hand.
Fighters can't have nice things: Refers to the philosophy that fighters have no abilities beyond hitting people with swords, and thus cannot fly, mind-control people, leap tall buildings in a single bound
DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
Well I've seen this thread :
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=26663
And this one has some terms as well:
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?p=31962
like: Skip Hates Sorcerors: Tome & Blood
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=26663
And this one has some terms as well:
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?p=31962
like: Skip Hates Sorcerors: Tome & Blood
Gary Gygax wrote:The player’s path to role-playing mastery begins with a thorough understanding of the rules of the game
Bigode wrote:I wouldn't normally make that blanket of a suggestion, but you seem to deserve it: scroll through the entire forum, read anything that looks interesting in term of design experience, then come back.
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I thought it was Book of Vile Body Piercings
DSMatticus wrote:Again, look at this fucking map you moron. Take your finger and trace each country's coast, then trace its claim line. Even you - and I say that as someone who could not think less of your intelligence - should be able to tell that one of these things is not like the other.
Kaelik wrote:I invented saying mean things about Tussock.
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Book of Exalted Deeds: Book of Exalted Furries, though I admit that I came up with that title before I even read a single Exalted book. Because the Exalted 2E player's manual is a much better fit than the BoED. But whatever.and I think there's a similar name for Book of Exalted Deeds.
Vanilla Action Hero: A character common to action movies who has no reliable access to or unilateral control of phlebtonium and has to rely on plot armor and mundane if preternatural human abilities to accomplish things. VAHs are allowed to use their plot armor to bend probability--such as being shot at by twenty bad guys and having them all miss--but can't use it to do something that's impossible to a layman's WSoD--such as surviving a harpoon to the heart. Has a lot of overlap with Dumbass Melee Fighter, but it's important to note that not all DMFs are VAHs (Rock Lee is a DMH, but not a VAH) and not all VAHs are DMFs (Robin Hood is a VAH, but not a DMF). Most DMFs are VAHs, however.
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Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
Oooh, ooh, I got one!
Suck a barrel of cocks: A generic insult employed on the Gaming Den when a generic denigration of problems in behaviour, assumptions or design is required, and the specifics should be obvious.
Example case: The PF fighter sucks a barrel of cocks.
Example case 2: Your writing sucks a barrel of cocks. Try using actual grammar, punctuation and spelling next time.
Example case 3: Bruce Cordell's takes on psionics suck a barrel of cocks no matter what edition they're from.
Etymology
A signature of one of the Denizens, in relation to an event where a somewhat-high-brow insult was employed, leading to that Denizen's confusion. To quote:
Suck a barrel of cocks: A generic insult employed on the Gaming Den when a generic denigration of problems in behaviour, assumptions or design is required, and the specifics should be obvious.
Example case: The PF fighter sucks a barrel of cocks.
Example case 2: Your writing sucks a barrel of cocks. Try using actual grammar, punctuation and spelling next time.
Example case 3: Bruce Cordell's takes on psionics suck a barrel of cocks no matter what edition they're from.
Etymology
A signature of one of the Denizens, in relation to an event where a somewhat-high-brow insult was employed, leading to that Denizen's confusion. To quote:
Some Denizen somewhen wrote:...If he had told me to go suck a barrel of cocks, I would have taken it in my stride.
Everything I learned about DnD, I learned from Frank Trollman.
Kaelik wrote:You are so full of Strawmen that I can only assume you actually shit actual straw.
souran wrote:...uber, nerd-rage-inducing, minutia-devoted, pointless blithering shit.
Schwarzkopf wrote:The Den, your one-stop shop for in-depth analysis of Dungeons & Dragons and distressingly credible threats of oral rape.
DSM wrote:Apparently, The GM's Going To Punch You in Your Goddamned Face edition of D&D is getting more traction than I expected. Well, it beats playing 4th. Probably 5th, too.
Frank Trollman wrote:Giving someone a mouth full of cock is a standard action.
PoliteNewb wrote:If size means anything, it's what position you have to get in to give a BJ.
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Steve the Crap-Covered Farmer: The not-particularly-important peasant who is either being saved, unable to meaningfully interfere in the plot, being casually devastated by one side or the other, or otherwise of minor direct importance. Occasionally receive powerful magic items or get turned into Spawn or something.
DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
I totally want to make Steve the Crap Covered Farmer a recurring npc in my game now...
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
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Man, did I wildly misinterpret that. I thought it was used like, "DeadDMWalking, what a brilliant post - you should reward yourself by sucking a barrel of cocks". Not to my taste, as it were, but everyone is so urbane, sophisticated and literate, I just assumed the majority of regular posters were homosexual and meant that in the kindest, most encouraging way possible.Mister_Sinister wrote:Oooh, ooh, I got one!
Suck a barrel of cocks: A generic insult employed on the Gaming Den when a generic denigration of problems in behaviour, assumptions or design is required, and the specifics should be obvious.
My bad.
You could add Padded Sumo and Rocket Launcher Tag.
Random thing I saw on Facebook wrote:Just make sure to compare your results from Weapon Bracket Table and Elevator Load Composition (Dragon Magazine #12) to the Perfunctory Armor Glossary, Version 3.8 (Races of Minneapolis, pp. 183). Then use your result as input to the "DM Says Screw You" equation.
That would be hilarious to contemplate.Orion wrote:That's odd, considering that the majority of people who suck cocks are not homosexual. Surely the more logical assumption would be that the Den is a Girls' Club?deaddmwalking wrote:I just assumed the majority of regular posters were homosexual
Everything I learned about DnD, I learned from Frank Trollman.
Kaelik wrote:You are so full of Strawmen that I can only assume you actually shit actual straw.
souran wrote:...uber, nerd-rage-inducing, minutia-devoted, pointless blithering shit.
Schwarzkopf wrote:The Den, your one-stop shop for in-depth analysis of Dungeons & Dragons and distressingly credible threats of oral rape.
DSM wrote:Apparently, The GM's Going To Punch You in Your Goddamned Face edition of D&D is getting more traction than I expected. Well, it beats playing 4th. Probably 5th, too.
Frank Trollman wrote:Giving someone a mouth full of cock is a standard action.
PoliteNewb wrote:If size means anything, it's what position you have to get in to give a BJ.
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Yes, we're all secretly women, except for Koumei* and Maj who are in fact men, as was Crissa, back when she fouled these waters.
*also a tentacle monster.
*also a tentacle monster.
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Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
Rocket Launcher Tag: Combat that is so offense heavy that the only indicator of who will win is who fires first (surely leading to the other person's death).
Magical Tea Party: A part of a roleplaying game where no rules dictate what will happen or why.
WWSSF: Stands for "Written While Still Smellin Funky". A common inclusion at the end of a post to indicate that the response was written immediately post-coitus. This is to apologize for the possibility of mistakes in grammar or hazy comprehension demonstrated within the post. The polite response is GfGFB in the following post. Which stands for "Gratz for Gettin Funky Bro".
Magical Tea Party: A part of a roleplaying game where no rules dictate what will happen or why.
WWSSF: Stands for "Written While Still Smellin Funky". A common inclusion at the end of a post to indicate that the response was written immediately post-coitus. This is to apologize for the possibility of mistakes in grammar or hazy comprehension demonstrated within the post. The polite response is GfGFB in the following post. Which stands for "Gratz for Gettin Funky Bro".
DSMatticus wrote:Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. I am filled with an unfathomable hatred.
...I have never, ever seen this employed on the Den. Source?deanruel87 wrote: WWSSF: Stands for "Written While Still Smellin Funky". A common inclusion at the end of a post to indicate that the response was written immediately post-coitus. This is to apologize for the possibility of mistakes in grammar or hazy comprehension demonstrated within the post. The polite response is GfGFB in the following post. Which stands for "Gratz for Gettin Funky Bro".
Everything I learned about DnD, I learned from Frank Trollman.
Kaelik wrote:You are so full of Strawmen that I can only assume you actually shit actual straw.
souran wrote:...uber, nerd-rage-inducing, minutia-devoted, pointless blithering shit.
Schwarzkopf wrote:The Den, your one-stop shop for in-depth analysis of Dungeons & Dragons and distressingly credible threats of oral rape.
DSM wrote:Apparently, The GM's Going To Punch You in Your Goddamned Face edition of D&D is getting more traction than I expected. Well, it beats playing 4th. Probably 5th, too.
Frank Trollman wrote:Giving someone a mouth full of cock is a standard action.
PoliteNewb wrote:If size means anything, it's what position you have to get in to give a BJ.
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Didn't you know? Everyone here at the Den are all Super Cool Guys who go to all the cool parties and ride motorcycles without a helmet because they just don't give a shit and eat their steaks raw and totally fuck women all the time, man.Mister_Sinister wrote:...I have never, ever seen this employed on the Den. Source?deanruel87 wrote: WWSSF: Stands for "Written While Still Smellin Funky". A common inclusion at the end of a post to indicate that the response was written immediately post-coitus. This is to apologize for the possibility of mistakes in grammar or hazy comprehension demonstrated within the post. The polite response is GfGFB in the following post. Which stands for "Gratz for Gettin Funky Bro".
Don't bother trying to impress gamers. They're too busy trying to impress you to care.
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I say that we should stick to using terms that have appeared at least three other non-quoted times by other posters in different thread. Rather than using the dictionary to stick peoples' shitty forced memes into it.
The well is feeling dry? Here's a few: Gygaxian (TGD uses that term in a different context than most of the Internet), Off the RNG, and Basket Weaving.
The well is feeling dry? Here's a few: Gygaxian (TGD uses that term in a different context than most of the Internet), Off the RNG, and Basket Weaving.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
Paizil: A fan of Paizo's work, who typically exhibits a lack of analytical proof for their preferences, instead citing Paizo marketing or putting forward stupid arguments that don't come from evidence. Typically believes that Pathfinder fixed all problems of 3E, and tends to feel smugly superior to fans of 4E, despite being hardly any better.
Example case: Paizils keep shitting in our thread with their claims that CMB/CMD actually works.
Example case 2: That's some serious Paizil logic there! Are you seriously trying to argue that fighters actually contribute?
Example case 3: Paizils, like 4rries, are a species apart - bound in religious logic, except about TTRPGs.
Etymology: First begun by Roy, as a compound of 'Paizo' and 'fail'.
Example case: Paizils keep shitting in our thread with their claims that CMB/CMD actually works.
Example case 2: That's some serious Paizil logic there! Are you seriously trying to argue that fighters actually contribute?
Example case 3: Paizils, like 4rries, are a species apart - bound in religious logic, except about TTRPGs.
Etymology: First begun by Roy, as a compound of 'Paizo' and 'fail'.
Everything I learned about DnD, I learned from Frank Trollman.
Kaelik wrote:You are so full of Strawmen that I can only assume you actually shit actual straw.
souran wrote:...uber, nerd-rage-inducing, minutia-devoted, pointless blithering shit.
Schwarzkopf wrote:The Den, your one-stop shop for in-depth analysis of Dungeons & Dragons and distressingly credible threats of oral rape.
DSM wrote:Apparently, The GM's Going To Punch You in Your Goddamned Face edition of D&D is getting more traction than I expected. Well, it beats playing 4th. Probably 5th, too.
Frank Trollman wrote:Giving someone a mouth full of cock is a standard action.
PoliteNewb wrote:If size means anything, it's what position you have to get in to give a BJ.
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Don't forget to define knot cutting. This is an awesome term and should seriously be in more use.
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Mord wrote:Chromatic Wolves are massively under-CRed. Its "Dood to stone" spell-like is a TPK waiting to happen if you run into it before anyone in the party has Dance of Sack or Shield of Farts.
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Playing Super Smash Bros.: Refers to gameplay or story bits in which one or more players are rendered superfluous for an extended amount of time and would be better off playing this game than having to sit uselessly at the table. Fun game by the way.
Phlebtonium: Actually a TvTropes term, this refers to a fictional power source (or a real-world power source pushed past its limits into fiction; genetic engineering and nanotechnology are popular) that allows the paranormal or supernatural things in a series to work. While not all things impossible to the real world in a story need phlebtonium in order to operate, readers find it easier to accept that a wizard casts a fireball through manipulating the mana leylines rather than 'just because'.
Forming Voltron: Combining individually inconsequential and unrelated mechanics or tactics to create a powerful effect. Usually used in the 'gameplay derailment' sense.
Gangbang/Focus Fire: Several team members ganging up on one person and concentrating attacks. Usually used in a pejorative sense for systems which mechanically encourage this tactic while fluffedly discouraging it.
Conan the Barbarian: Used as an exemplar of 'low' fantasy which exalts the Vanilla Action Hero. Only has just enough magic in the fantasy to justify it being called so. Character not only gets to muscle and VAH their way through the setting but is also the MVP character. Note that this is not how the character actually behaves in the comics or movies, this is just the pop cultural perception of him.
Elennsarian: When a poster desires or believes in something that is at first glance plausible but is actually contradictory and holds on to this contradiction even after being pointed to an alternative or how to undo the contradiction. Named after a poster who wanted things like races to matter while also not having them define your character, wanted individual effort to matter in WH40K so the setting would be less grimdark, etc..
Gygaxian: 1.) A style of game design or dungeon-mastering where game and story decisions are unilaterally decided or enforced by the DM, against the will of the players, the rules, real-world examples or counterexamples, and common sense.
2.) A style of game design or dungeon-mastering in which negative things frequently and incorrigibly happen to players without any real connection to the plot, existing rules, or player actions.
Popeye: Used as an example of a 'martial' character who does blatantly impossible and supernatural things while not actually using phlebtonium. Activities such as punching a pile of wood into a fully functional house, creating a tornado by spinning in place very fast, etc.. Popeye Music specifically refers to the time period a powerful buff lasts.
Steve the Crap-Covered Farmer: See above.
(this isn't actually the name for this concept, since it's nameless but it pops up frequently enough that it needs to be stated)
Rule Negative One: Cooperative game optimization is not limited by in-game effectiveness. Optimization is limited by how 'reasonable' your proposed method is, up to and not limited to: How long your explanation is, how out-of-genre your method is, how much jealousy your methods induce at the table, and how much you go against an average DM's expectations.
Rule Negative Two: Because of rule Negative One, for any rules discussion or mechanics cobbling meant to be used at a real gaming table, always interpret ambiguity in the most Gygaxian fashion possible.
Phlebtonium: Actually a TvTropes term, this refers to a fictional power source (or a real-world power source pushed past its limits into fiction; genetic engineering and nanotechnology are popular) that allows the paranormal or supernatural things in a series to work. While not all things impossible to the real world in a story need phlebtonium in order to operate, readers find it easier to accept that a wizard casts a fireball through manipulating the mana leylines rather than 'just because'.
Forming Voltron: Combining individually inconsequential and unrelated mechanics or tactics to create a powerful effect. Usually used in the 'gameplay derailment' sense.
Gangbang/Focus Fire: Several team members ganging up on one person and concentrating attacks. Usually used in a pejorative sense for systems which mechanically encourage this tactic while fluffedly discouraging it.
Conan the Barbarian: Used as an exemplar of 'low' fantasy which exalts the Vanilla Action Hero. Only has just enough magic in the fantasy to justify it being called so. Character not only gets to muscle and VAH their way through the setting but is also the MVP character. Note that this is not how the character actually behaves in the comics or movies, this is just the pop cultural perception of him.
Elennsarian: When a poster desires or believes in something that is at first glance plausible but is actually contradictory and holds on to this contradiction even after being pointed to an alternative or how to undo the contradiction. Named after a poster who wanted things like races to matter while also not having them define your character, wanted individual effort to matter in WH40K so the setting would be less grimdark, etc..
Gygaxian: 1.) A style of game design or dungeon-mastering where game and story decisions are unilaterally decided or enforced by the DM, against the will of the players, the rules, real-world examples or counterexamples, and common sense.
2.) A style of game design or dungeon-mastering in which negative things frequently and incorrigibly happen to players without any real connection to the plot, existing rules, or player actions.
Popeye: Used as an example of a 'martial' character who does blatantly impossible and supernatural things while not actually using phlebtonium. Activities such as punching a pile of wood into a fully functional house, creating a tornado by spinning in place very fast, etc.. Popeye Music specifically refers to the time period a powerful buff lasts.
Steve the Crap-Covered Farmer: See above.
(this isn't actually the name for this concept, since it's nameless but it pops up frequently enough that it needs to be stated)
Rule Negative One: Cooperative game optimization is not limited by in-game effectiveness. Optimization is limited by how 'reasonable' your proposed method is, up to and not limited to: How long your explanation is, how out-of-genre your method is, how much jealousy your methods induce at the table, and how much you go against an average DM's expectations.
Rule Negative Two: Because of rule Negative One, for any rules discussion or mechanics cobbling meant to be used at a real gaming table, always interpret ambiguity in the most Gygaxian fashion possible.
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Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.