Michael Wong Star Wars Fan Wank

[Stubbazubba]

Now, at no point did I ever imagine that the line was written to cast Han Solo as a buffoon who didn't know how to tell a damn lie about something he was supposed to be knowledgeable about.

Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation.

Well, uh, you have imagined wrong.

Um, no.

I actually read the rest of this thread and agree with the sensible folk who understand that you can give misinformation without it being total gibberish like confusing distance with time. Why would you assume that misinformation would imply "gibberish" rather than "boastful claim", especially in this context?

Because it doesn't say misinformation, it says "obvious misinformation." So while yes, all three of those possibilities are still on the table, the possibility that Lucas thought the audience would get the units joke, literally painting Solo as a charming but yes, not too bright mercenary, is just as likely as either of the option 2s.

Bear in mind, Han Solo also charged a squad of stormtroopers that outnumbered him at least 3 to 1, believed his ship was untrackable, believed he could fix his ship's hyperdrive when he couldn't, flew into a space worm without knowing it, and got jealous of Luke & Leia like a high schooler. The guy is not ever shown to be bright, knowledgeable, or cunning. He gets by on charm, gumption, Chewie, and his two technical skills - shooting and flying. Why would it be so out-of-character for him to not be sure what a parsec was? Darths & Droids' characterization is actually pretty close: Chewie is the navigator, engineer, and over-all much brighter than Han, but Han is the Face and the better shot.

[Juton]

Darths & Droids' characterization is actually pretty close: Chewie is the navigator, engineer, and over-all much brighter than Han, but Han is the Face and the better shot.

There is a very well argued theory out there that the events in the original trilogy where orchestrated by Chewie and R2-D2. It makes a certain sort of sense if you read the explanation.

[phlapjackage]

I've been waiting this whole thread to post exactly that. I love this explanation:

http://northisup.com/blog/a-new-sith-or ... pe-mirror/

And in another view, if we can assume that Lucas is a horrible writer, it's safe to assume the line "Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation." is ALSO a flub on Lucas' part.

[Starmaker]

2) If you do know what you're talking about, and you want to know how much the other guy knows what you're talking about, you can drop bullshit jargon and see if he calls you on it. If he does, whoops, you fucked up.

Not necessarily. You're a smuggler. A guy who looks like a hick wants to hire you. He's either an actual hick or pretending to be one. You say, "kessel run, parsecs, blah blah technobabble".

The possibilities are:

- he calls you on the bullshit or otherwise reacts incredulously. Now you know he's undercover, and if he has half a brain he knows you just blew his cover. This may result in "well played, sir" and you'll be able perform better (because you're better informed now) and/or get him to pay you more, or it might get you force-choked before you can draw your gun.

- he doesn't react at all. Either he's actually a hick, or he's really good at that being undercover stuff. If the latter, he knows you've been testing him, which may earn you anything from respect to disregard (he thinks he has successfully bluffed you) to a force choke.

[tussock]

OK, so

[*]You lot are seriously arguing about one line from a hippy space-samuri movie from 1974. One line. Pages of argument about the intent of people who don't even remember because it wasn't even a little bit important.

[*]I love this. Keep doing it. It's like how people still talk about Shakespeare, only for fun, and not at all like Shakespeare. More like arguing over biblical passages.

John 3:16, bitches. "For the God who abandoned his only child loves everything; and anyone says otherwise can go rot."

[Libertad]

OK, so

You lot are seriously arguing about one line from a hippy space-samuri movie from 1974. One line. Pages of argument about the intent of people who don't even remember because it wasn't even a little bit important.

Umm, this is sort of The Gaming Den's shtick: Analyze the fuck out of it! And when it comes to fandoms, every little detail becomes important, especially when it relates to Star Wars.

Oh, and Star Wars' first release was 1977, not 1974.

[tussock]

And here I was hoping to get into an argument about the benefits of child sacrifice. Yes, D&D was '74, my bad.