Captain_Bleach at [unixtime wrote:1197588645[/unixtime]]Isn't monotheism also "Sure, there are other Gods, but you HAVE to worship this God, and him/her only!"
That's Monolatrism.
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Captain_Bleach at [unixtime wrote:1197588645[/unixtime]]Isn't monotheism also "Sure, there are other Gods, but you HAVE to worship this God, and him/her only!"
Draco_Argentum at [unixtime wrote:1197635017[/unixtime]]
Thats an odd thing to have statistical evidence of.
FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1197681054[/unixtime]]That he will. Of cours, it's rather hilariously impossible to prove the existence of the supernatural, nor even to have any evidence of the supernatural. Whatever exists in the universe exists. The very nature of science is that if ghosts or gods or whatever were real, we'd simply include them in our codex of natural law. That we don't accept them is simply an extension of the fact that noone has ever produced a shred of real evidence that indicates their existence.
James Randi goes a step further though. He doesn't offer a million dollars to anyone who can prove the existence of supernatural occurances (which is impossible). He offers a million dollars to anyone who can prove the existence of things that are currently classified as supernatural.
So yes. If you or anyone else can show any real evidence that one or more books of one or more versions of the bible are of non-human origin you will be a millionaire. And I personally will amongst the first to congratulate you.
-Username17
Myself wrote:Frank Trollman is an atheist because he killed all the supernatural entities.
That doesn't have anything to do with "Who's Christian?" or "What's the right Bible?" - that has to do with the basic concept of hypocrisy that I hate as much despite having no investment on any religion (or a lot of other things people claim to put faith in, such as nations). And I wanna see that "statistically important evidence" too ...Calibron wrote:Christians that have mildly different beliefs from me don't bother me, we all have imperfect, finite minds and nobody is going to get it exactly right. It's that 90%(figure pulled directly out of ass) of people that identify themselves as Christians, or some denomination there of, do not follow Jesus in any meaningful way beyond going to church a few times a year and saying they believe in God that bothers me; that their behavior flies in the face of everything Christianity stands for and they have no problem with that. Those people aren't Christians regardless of whether they identify themselves as such or not.
Making fun of an underdeveloped culture, perhaps?Bleach wrote:How do you find it insulting?
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LDSChristian wrote:True. I do wonder which is worse: killing so many people like Hitler did or denying Christ 3 times like Peter did.
Bigode at [unixtime wrote:1197763242[/unixtime]]Making fun of an underdeveloped culture, perhaps?Bleach wrote:How do you find it insulting?
FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1197753890[/unixtime]]I warn you ahead of time that most of the statistical determinations of the chances of various events being non-magical in origin rely on the before/after fallacy of dealing with probabilities.
That is, before you roll a d20, your chance of rolling any particular number is only 1 in 20. But your chances of rolling some particular number is 100%. So if you look at a series of dice rolls of an encounter, the chances of all four players rolling exactly what they did for 4 rounds running is just one in 655,360,000,000,000,000,000. But of course, despite the manifestly titanic odds they did roll those numbers with no supernatural aid because their chances of rolling something is still 100%.
-Username17
Bigode at [unixtime wrote:1197763242[/unixtime]]Calibron: are you aware that "people liking the way it sounds" could be deliberate deception? To quote H. L. Mencken (Atheist of course): "Whoever translated the Bible to an excellent prose in French is the main responsible for the collapse of Christianity in France. To the contrary, the men who translated the Bible to an archaic, retumbant and nigh-incomprehensible English gave Christianity a fresh breath of life everywhere English is spoken". That's a translation I just made - I wouldn't be surprised if the quote was famous and the exact words known as different. Hilarious note: Mencken was born in Baltimore ...
Bigode at [unixtime wrote:1197763242[/unixtime]]Moreover, if you allow me to throw this at you: let's suppose one (doesn't matter which) of the Catholic churches contains the "most divinely inspired" Bible, and that indeed the other side ignored it out of "ignorance or stubborn pride". Now, take some Catholic from the "wrong side" who isn't being taught "the right stuff" and may well die without seeing it: what's fair about them paying for the "ignorance or stubborn pride" of some government of centuries ago? Especially if one throws in a conflicting moral rule and somebody goes to Hell thanks to said government ...
Bigode at [unixtime wrote:1197763242[/unixtime]]That doesn't have anything to do with "Who's Christian?" or "What's the right Bible?" - that has to do with the basic concept of hypocrisy that I hate as much despite having no investment on any religion (or a lot of other things people claim to put faith in, such as nations).Calibron wrote:Christians that have mildly different beliefs from me don't bother me, we all have imperfect, finite minds and nobody is going to get it exactly right. It's that 90%(figure pulled directly out of ass) of people that identify themselves as Christians, or some denomination there of, do not follow Jesus in any meaningful way beyond going to church a few times a year and saying they believe in God that bothers me; that their behavior flies in the face of everything Christianity stands for and they have no problem with that. Those people aren't Christians regardless of whether they identify themselves as such or not.
Bigode at [unixtime wrote:1197763242[/unixtime]]And I wanna see that "statistically important evidence" too ...
Captain Bleach wrote:What is it about Appalachians that is underdeveloped in your opinion?
Of course, I agree with you how it is insulting; the Kender personality represents A.D.D., while Gnome personalities represent obsessive compulsive disorder with perfection of technology. Silvanesti Elves represent xenophobia taken to hated extremes. Istarian humans represent religious monomania. What group of people in Dragonlance aren't some one-dimensional real-world/fantasy stereotype?
Calibron at [unixtime wrote:1197763819[/unixtime]]
Well, yes, like I said what I'm going to share with you could possibly be chalked up to insanely astronomical coincidence.
Captain_Bleach at [unixtime wrote:1197770552[/unixtime]]
Oh, and what is up with that whole "the Gods didn't leave the mortals, the mortals left the Gods" bit by Goldmoon? The Istarians were the most religious-addicted culture on Ansalon, not to mention that it said in the War of the Lance sourcebook that the Khur, who were still faithful after the Gods left, were also excluded from Divine Magic. Basically, their worshipers were told by Mishakal (healing goddess) to turn away from Divine Magic for healing and to use herbalism. They were still loyal, yet they were not allowed divine magic. Seems like the gods are looking at one pathway, that Goldmoon shall be the true revival of the "Old Gods," even though said Gods were still being worshiped in small areas. I don't get it.
Captain_Bleach wrote:In the War of the Lance Sourcebook, they proposed a fix for healing magic:
Individual wounds are tracked separately. In order to heal a wound, you must make a Heal check at DC 15+ the number of damage dealt. Wounds that deal even so much as a moderate amount of damage will become nearly impossible to heal (DC 30 for a 15 point wound), plus I don't like keeping track of every time a Dragon bit you for wounds.
Calibron at [unixtime wrote:1197793893[/unixtime]]Believe me, it's nothing so simple as a string of particular numbers. We should put this topic on hold until Monday rolls around and I get a chance to start explaining.
Maxus at [unixtime wrote:1197842551[/unixtime]]
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That's a very nice fix, assuming you print up a bunch of anatomical charts to hand out and you have some uber healers.
Captain Bleach wrote:So is it a good fix or not?
Captain Bleach wrote:When I first saw the rule, I thought the designers were on crack.