Grognards Against Humanity

Libertad · Post by **Libertad** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:15 pm

Fun Tyrant refers to "The Tyranny of Fun," an essay criticizing more modern designers changing things about RPG systems "to make them more fun." The idea is that there are many ways to have fun, and streamlining things may actually work to the detriment of gamers' enjoyment.

ModelCitizen · Post by **ModelCitizen** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:29 am

Korgan0 wrote: Splugorth Warrior Women is probably a reference to RIFTS, which I've never played. Apparently, Splugorths are beholder-esque tentacled intergalactic slavers, or something.

They're from RIFTS Atlantis, a sourcebook infamous for weird and overpowered character splats.

The three chicks with the guns are are Splugorth Blind Warrior Women. Imagine if Geordi LaForge was a lesbian stripper ninja enslaved by tentacle monsters. They're a playable splat. The big thing that looks like a bad guy from Duke Nukem is a Splugorth Slaver (also a playable splat, and yes, it comes with the airskiff and a harem of blind warrior women). Both of them serve the Splugorth, the race of giant cthulhustarfuckers who rule Atlantis (also a playable splat).

Korgan0 · Post by **Korgan0** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:30 am

Libertad wrote:
Korgan0 wrote:Also, cultural Marxism is sometimes used, as in the link in tzor's or shadzar's sig (I can't remember which), by 2e and 1e grognards to posit a culture of permissiveness or something which led to people being sissies and not appreciating labyrinthine initiative systems, rolling your stats in order, and no-save fuck-you's.
I'm sick and tired of getting red-baited in political discussions, does it really have to ooze into RPG debates as well?

Seriously, how did anyone make a link between this and Communist principles?

The people who posit these kinds of arguments end up talking about people like Derrida and Deleuze (or at least their ridiculously strawmanned versions of them) who they then proceed to conflate with every other Marxist thinker ever, because, as we know, Lenin and Deleuze agree on absolutely everything ever.

erik · Post by **erik** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:55 am

ModelCitizen wrote: The three chicks with the guns are are Splugorth Blind Warrior Women. Imagine if Geordi LaForge was a lesbian stripper ninja enslaved by tentacle monsters. They're a playable splat. The big thing that looks like a bad guy from Duke Nukem is a Splugorth Slaver (also a playable splat, and yes, it comes with the airskiff and a harem of blind warrior women). Both of them serve the Splugorth, the race of giant cthulhustarfuckers who rule Atlantis (also a playable splat).

Lolwut?

I never thought of Atlantis as having much power creep. The biggest deal they had was the True Atlanteans and Tattoo Magic. But those weren't outrageous compared to some core options. Some symbiotic organisms were okay, but not too crayzay.

And it's been a while, but none of those three are supposed to be playable. The blind warrior women being a fringe exception, but at no point is it ever recommended that players be supernatural intelligences and I'm pretty sure the Slavers are supposed to be effectively suborned into being NPC only. Is there an EXP/Level table for any of the three?

Hrm, there might have been one for Blind Warrior Women, but they weren't very good anyway.

Dogbert · Post by **Dogbert** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:28 pm

Libertad wrote:Cheetoism: Cheetos and Mountain Dew were favorite snacks in Gary Gygax's gaming circle. Beyond that I have no idea if the phrase has any deeper meaning.

Everything I have to say on Cheetoism: