POKEYMANS thread

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Fri May 03, 2013 5:55 pm

I know this is the anime and not the games but still.

Fuck you, I'm Batman.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sat May 04, 2013 1:53 am

Shrapnel wrote:When I first saw it, I had been hoping that it would be a separate Pokémon.

Of course, the problem with a Mewtwo evolution would be the fact that everyone's Mewtwo from HGSS that they then transferred to BW2, and then presumably to XYZ, is already level 100. Because why the fuck would you not level him up to "stomps on the world"? Not to mention getting a unique move at level 100 in BW2.

CapnTthePirateG · Post by **CapnTthePirateG** » Sat May 04, 2013 6:45 am

Well, I suppose he could be a trade evolution...

Lokathor · Post by **Lokathor** » Sat May 04, 2013 7:40 am

Possibility: We can get a new Mewtwo in pkmn XY.

My personal hope is that the count of pokemon within the gamepack goes way up and they ditch the stupid Dream World bullshit.

I hated that so much. Killed my love of pokemon. Never even purchased Black/White 2.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat May 04, 2013 4:33 pm

I don't know why they don't make a mega-game.

Get some unified plot--Team We Do Evil Right--and send you through Kanto/Johto, Hoenn, and I forget the names of DP and BW.

And then you can just get every damn thing. I suppose you could even tie into the anime, with semi-starting over when you move to the next region.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Sat May 04, 2013 7:11 pm

I've always wanted Pokemon games to start taking advantage of how basically everything can connect to the internet now in order to allow you to collect all umpteen hundred Pokemon with one trainer. They also need to start building in event-only Pokemon from the previous games into the regular lineups of their new games. Those Pokemon aren't drawing anyone into events once a new generation starts and it feels pretty anti-climactic to just hack the rarest Pokemon in the world into your game.

CapnTthePirateG · Post by **CapnTthePirateG** » Sun May 05, 2013 3:42 am

Lokathor wrote:Possibility: We can get a new Mewtwo in pkmn XY.

My personal hope is that the count of pokemon within the gamepack goes way up and they ditch the stupid Dream World bullshit.

I hated that so much. Killed my love of pokemon. Never even purchased Black/White 2.

How is that worse than the EV system? The EV system made me stop playing past crystal...that system is an affront to all that is good.

Parthenon · Post by **Parthenon** » Sun May 05, 2013 4:19 am

.... wasn't the EV system in from the very beginning?

I'm now wondering if there is any game where having part of your character based on what you beat up is satisfying.

Normally it is part of a semi-linear RPG where as you go through the game the choice of enemy you fight against is limited by the story so 99% of playthroughs everyone uses their favourite weapon against the enemies in the first two sections and all the enemies after that don't really affect it. In which case it isn't really a choice.

Or, you actively work to not play the game properly by either pissing about taking twice as long to swap back and forth in order to get the best result possible, or you go through most of the game then go back to the bit you want and grind away at the bit you want.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sun May 05, 2013 4:34 am

EVs were in it from the start, yeah, but they basically didn't tell you about it - it was up to the player to figure it out (and it also is what led to people thinking Rare Candies give you lower stats - because you instantly gain a level without gaining EVs).

As the games went on, they added the personality types which modify EV gain, then the Proteins etc. that give you EVs, then the stuff that lowers EVs, and at the rate it's been going, I wouldn't be surprised if XYZ just flat-out has a shop you can go to and you tell it what EVs the pokemon should have and they just set it to that.

I also would not be sad if that happened.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun May 05, 2013 4:49 am

I once had a Rayquaza gain +16 speed in a single level-up.

That's when I really began looking at EVs.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Sun May 05, 2013 7:52 am

The EV system was way simpler in Crystal anyway, because it consisted of "you get 255 of them to every stat, happy birthday". Hell, we didn't even call them EVs back then.

Lokathor · Post by **Lokathor** » Sun May 05, 2013 8:13 am

How is that worse than the EV system? The EV system made me stop playing past crystal...that system is an affront to all that is good.

Because the main game is so easy that you can just ignore the EV system entirely and still win. Dream World you can't ignore if you want to fill up your pokedex.

Koumei wrote:they added the personality types which modify EV gain

Personality types don't modify EV gain, they give + or - 10% to a non-HP stat after other considerations (base value, IV, EV, level).

Istred · Post by **Istred** » Sun May 05, 2013 9:26 am

I really don't think they'd make the new Mewtwo an evolution - Eviolite Mewtwo might be too much...

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Sun May 05, 2013 11:36 am

The personality types totally should just be a flavor thing, and have no effect on stats.

It's really fucking obnoxious if you get a shiny or an otherwise really rare Pokemon that has a personality type that's bad for it.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun May 05, 2013 6:05 pm

Darth Rabbitt wrote:The personality types totally should just be a flavor thing, and have no effect on stats.

It's really fucking obnoxious if you get a shiny or an otherwise really rare Pokemon that has a personality type that's bad for it.

It is.

My first playthrough on Ruby, I got a Torchic with a Cool (attack-boosting personality) and a Groudon with a Lonely type. Also attack-boosting.

I never got lucky like that again

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon May 06, 2013 12:28 am

Darth Rabbitt wrote:The personality types totally should just be a flavor thing, and have no effect on stats.

Agreed, so very much.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:29 am

Koumei wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:When I first saw it, I had been hoping that it would be a separate Pokémon.
Of course, the problem with a Mewtwo evolution would be the fact that everyone's Mewtwo from HGSS that they then transferred to BW2, and then presumably to XYZ, is already level 100. Because why the fuck would you not level him up to "stomps on the world"? Not to mention getting a unique move at level 100 in BW2.

It 'tisn't a new evolution; it's a new "form", which means that it will change shape, most likely through some contrived method.

Maxus wrote:Get some unified plot--Team We Do Evil Right--

Yes to this a thousand million billion times over; fuck the everloving FUCK out of Team Plasma and their fucking dicksucking moralizing retardedness.

and send you through Kanto/Johto, Hoenn, and I forget the names of DP and BW.

The names of all the regions of the Pokemon world (including spin-offs, 'cause I can): Kanto (Gen I), Johto (Gen II), Hoenn (Gen III), Sinnoh (Gen IV), Unova (Gen V); Orre (Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gales of Darkness), Fiore, Almia, and Oblivia (Pokemon Ranger series).

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:45 am

I know. What I was saying was "This is why it's a new form, not a new evolution". Because the new Form just involves equipping it with the Master Orb, or visiting the Original Rocket Lab with it in your party, or whatever, so it can be any level you like in order for that to happen.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:37 am

Oh...

Well, in on another note, in the US, from May 8th to the 31st, there will be a new wifi event in which you can obtain a Deoxys.

Just around the time life decides to punch me in the testes and have my DS break. Shit.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:38 am

I wonder when Australia will get the eve- HAHAHA FUCK YOU, NINTENDO PRODUCTS CAN'T INTERNET OVER HERE.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:45 am

This is why I hate the fact that Pokemon games are now over-reliant on WiFi capabilities. I saw the signs that it was coming way back in Gen IV, but I did not take up the sword to lead a crusade against this threat born of deception, and thus I must walk amidst the smoke and ashes death and defeat, and stalk the Earth in shame.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:45 pm

Shrapnel, you can borrow my DS to get the event this weekend if not earlier.

It's not that big a deal (for you at least, I feel bad for any other Denners with similar problems)

As for the Wi-Fi fetish, I blame legendary bloat; Gen I had 5, Gen II had 6, and then Gen III had 10, and Gen IV and Gen V each had 13... see where I'm getting at?

I'd personally rather they just fit more of them in the damn games, but it gave them a really good excuse to have all this Wi-Fi event bullshit.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon May 06, 2013 7:30 pm

I don't actually know how to do the wifi events...

Meikle641 · Post by **Meikle641** » Tue May 07, 2013 1:11 am

I've never even managed to get my DS to connect to Wifi.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue May 07, 2013 2:25 am

Prak_Anima wrote:I don't actually know how to do the wifi events...

Assuming your system can connect to the voodoosphere thing, you first need to connect from the DS itself, not just in the game. You do what you'd normally do to connect, through system etc. etc. then there should be the option to download crap from Nintendo themselves.

Possibly upon connecting from the DS, you then start the game up and, from the game menu, select the "download such and such" (don't have the system on me, can't remember exact words) and it should show up as an option.

That then activates a setting in-game of "Event==1", so you can then receive a special item instantly, or a dude in a store walks up and gives it to you. You can then activate the event by going to the right place with the item - for instance, going to that creepy inn with the ticket in DPP.