[nWoD] Blood & Smoke aka V:tR2.0

Fucks · Post by **Fucks** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:54 am

Apparently not a campaign, but a full-blown overhaul of V:tR in crunch and fluff. Not that OPP made it clear in their annoucements, for whatever reasons. No KS for this was a surprise too.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:21 am

Yes, Blood and Smoke is part of the new new world of darkness. Unfortunately, no one involved seems to know what the fuck they are doing or have any idea why nWoD was bad in mechanics and flavor. So shit changes, but the important shit doesn't get fixed. The combat system is still ass, there's still no presented reason you'd want to interact with their proposed supernatural society instead of just leaving town, etc.

Onyx Path is happy to take your money, but they can't actually solve any of the problems with any of the lines. They lack the talent or the inclination to even try.

-Username17

Fucks · Post by **Fucks** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:37 am

Did you read the PDF (which isn't a proper relase in your opinion iirc) or did you just give your generic anti-OPP-rant?

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:37 pm

Dude, they leaked the playtest documents for this shitbag in February. It's been known that this isn't a legitimate attempt to solve anything for at least ten months.

-Username17

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:38 pm

For posterity's sake I'd like a link to these playtest documents if reasonably possible.

I have no reason to doubt you, but I might otherwise one day be gaming with otherwise sane people who think they do, in fact, have such reason.

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:12 pm

http://whitewolfblogs.com/blog/tag/the-strix-chronicle/

from an RPG.net discussion about it during the month of Feb
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?677 ... Discussion

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:01 pm

Eh. I really don't care anymore. It's obvious that the quality of the writing is shit, and the "creativity" involved with the line is D-list now. The mechanics are broken to the point of deterministic, which leaves the meta/setting, and it's terrible, uninteresting, and uninspired.

Dogbert · Post by **Dogbert** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:43 am

And here I thought they were finally fulfilling Requiem's destiny and fully go the Monsterhearts route to have a game to go with their Vampire Romance novels.

At least that'd justify nVampire's existence.

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:40 pm

Is it just me or is "The Strix Chronicle" on that cover *completely* unreadable?

I mean, I've tried over several days and various states of intoxication just to be sure, but it looks like shit.

Also, with Vampire The Requiem logo, WHO THE FUCK PUTS RED TEXT ON A RED BACKGROUND. I'M NOT EVEN IN GRAPHIC DESIGN AND I KNOW BETTER THAN THIS. A BRAIN-DAMAGED CHIMP WITH DYSENTERY WOULD KNOW BETTER.

*Ahem* sorry, had to get that out.

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:45 pm

So this is the "brilliance" of one of the main themes of the reboot from the RPG.net thread:

RPG.net wrote:The Strix are the gore-soaked, possessed-corpse vampires of folklore. The Kindred are the slick and sexy vampires of pop culture. But that grisly, hungry thing is inside every vampire, and just maybe it's like the rest of us. Maybe it wants friends.

That conflict... or the sickening places it's not a conflict... are great material for Vampire.

Which, if you'll pardon me, has ALWAYS been a fucking theme for Vampire in any incarnation. And we had a faction of vampires that dug the monster hungry side of themselves and grokked the monster: They're called Sabbat.

Everything old is new again.

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:38 am

Until Shyamalan took over the oWoD, and it turned out that the Sabbat were good guys (sort of) all along! What a twist!

But really, I think the whole vampire-owl-ghost thing with Strixes isn't all that good.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:01 pm

I'm starting to think I could write a Monster High rpg and produce a better gothic horror game than WW/OPP...

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:42 pm

It's been done.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:36 pm

Not quite what I meant