This thread is basically a reference to/continuation of the thread Frank mentions in the thread's second post. That thread is, itself, a split from another thread about political leaks. There's a whole lot of history here, and I don't fault you for needing brought up to speed.Occluded Sun wrote:My right to property is derived from people's recognition that we have an inherent interest in that sort of thing, manifested in legal protection from the government which derives its powers from said people.
I don't see what 'souls' have to do with anything.
The summary is that infected slut princess is a hardcore libertarian. Or possibly full-blown anarchist. I can't remember which. He believes that property rights objectively exist or can be deduced from some valid, non-arbitrary framework, and that we (individuals, private institutions, and public institutions) have an obligation to respect those rights.
A bunch of people who are not infected slut princess called him crazy, and told him that rights only exist when they are respected and enforced, and that the right to property exists solely because individuals come together to form public institutions (i.e. governments) with the inclination and ability to guarantee the right to private property.
This is an important distinction, because for ISP the simple matter of taxation is an unethical violation of your property rights. Meanwhile, in the world of people who aren't batshit insane, nobody thinks that the government forcing you to help pay for public utilities and services like police and roads is unethical.