Doom wrote:Kaelik wrote:fbmf wrote:Careful, Frank, or Doom will PM you insults that he lacks the testicular fortitude to say in e-public.
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that he will post them in e-public, then edit his post to remove them and then PM them.
More accurate to say I gave him the chance to explain his lies. But he admitted that he was just incapable of doing otherwise, and so there was no need to attempt to discuss it further.
I've been waiting on you to ring this bell so I could discuss your PMs in public.
Now then, following this exchange on March 30, 2014:
http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?p=38 ... ht=#382930
...Doom sent me the following via PM
fuck you, you piece of shit hypocrite moderator.
Just needed to be said, is all.
I then replied:
Me wrote:
"hypocrite"?
I'm going to need you to explain that part.
The next morning, he followed up with
Doom wrote:
I apologize for my outburst...it was late, and I was so disappointed to see you post a lie like that. You're a mod, you shouldn't join the trolling.
That said, why do you promote trolling? I mean, DSM and Kaelik were just trolling. A man's MO, when confronted with two yapping dogs pissing themselves in excitement, dogs that are not his problem...is to walk away.
I mean, c'mon, a short statement preceded with "question" and ending with "?" is a question. Those two trolls might not be smart enough to know that a short statement preceded with "question" and ending with "?" is a question, but you are, right?
DSM is just a kid. He's been great for quotes when I give seminars on Innumeracy in the Modern World (heck, this place is a gold mine--that's the other reason I kept my outburst private. When I'm asked to prove that these quotes are real, I have to give my sources, and I want the place to be reasonably clean..I see it's too late, as the trolls pounced on my post in a matter of seconds. Oh well, proves the point further), but for me to engage him while he's trolling would just be piling on on my part, and I'm above that. He's uneducable at this age, it would just irritate him more, and I've nothing to gain by that.
Kaelik is troll through and through; how many threads have you closed now because of his crapping all over the thread? Once Kaelik starts Kaeliking, it's all over. Engaging him (it?) in conversation is pointless. I'd spend 20 pages trying to explain that a short statement preceded with "question" and ending with "?" is a question, and it would not be able to understand. I still believe it more likely that Kaelik is some sort of code; he failed that last Turing test, I might just try again soon.
Anyway, back to your lie. While I don't expect Kaelik or DSM to know, there's a counter in each of my posts, stating how many posts I have made in these troll forums. Please, use your eyes now to verify it's over 1000; it's a number way too big for Kaelik and DSM to comprehend, but I'm hoping a moderator is smart enough to realize that is a great many posts.
If, as you say, I shut down, then it should take you no time at all to find 250 threads where I've shut down after 4 posts or less.
So, prove your claim: produce these threads. Anything over 200 will be good enough to establish a MO.
On the other hand, I believe this is just another inappropriate lie.
But, I'll give you some time to back up your claim.
Take care,
Doom
I was honestly baffled by his asking me to prove my claim. He was asking me to "back up" a claim he made via PM. I mean, the website stores PMs. He had to know I would have a copy of it. For reference, the contents of the Pm I'm referencing are spoilered below.
Anyway, here's my reply in full:
You've admitted via PM that you do most of your conversations via PM (November 2011 PM to me). When I asked you why you weren't posting publicly, you gave a brief explanation and then told me
you wrote:
I was just testing the waters with you, but they might be frozen solid. My bad.
Even when I hadn't indicated that I was upset that you were PMing or thought it was chickenshit (I do, but hadn't said so then). You just decided I didn't want to talk to you because I asked why you were PMing.
Since then, I've been surprised you post publicly as often as you do. Your(sic) welcome to, but you don't like people saying mean things about you on the internet. You're not alone.
Shutting down publicly and secretly"laughing at the idiocy" via PM is your admitted MO (in the aforementioned PM*). I took you at your word.
Were you lying?
Lastly, the "you're a mod and above such things" argument really doesn't work here, as you and I have covered before.
The Great Fence Builder, Sept 2011 wrote wrote:
As I have tried to explain in the past, I draw a distinction between fbmf posting and The Great Fence Builder Speaking. fbmf is a "private citizen", so to speak. He does not speak for TGDMB management. He says what is on his mind, and you are free to tell him to go fuck himself or eat a barrel of cocks or whatever if you disagree just as if he were any other poster. On the other hand, when The Great Fence Builder Speaks, he is not participating in discussions but rather laying down and enforcing the law.
From here, second post on page:
http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=52 ... &start=100
*-For reference, here's the contents of that PM.
That PM wrote:
Well, it wasn't a rant, just an observation. I've been doing most of my conversations through PMs now, as the trolling of MPSIMS has really shut down rational conversation, making such talk pointless there. Granted, it's a gaming site and not a legitimate forum for any discussion past that, but it's pretty ridiculous how bad it's gotten.
On the other hand, normal folk can still talk through PMs and laugh at the idiocy, free from the relentless trolling. I mean, after the whole "legal dictionaries, legal sites, legal documents, court cases and statements from two lawyers are all wrong" because K "took a course on it once and thinks otherwise" fiasco of a few threads ago (note: statement of fact, not "rant") nobody in their right mind should be posting in MPSIMS.
I was just testing the waters with you, but they might be frozen solid. My bad.
Take care.
Anyway, Doom then followed up with:
Doom wrote:
Fair enough. How are those links coming along?
To be honest, I stared at the screen for a bit looking for some hidden meaning in what Doom was saying. I was really having trouble getting my mind around him asking me to prove his claim. After some minutes I replied:
Me, after holding my head in my hands and concentrating for a bit wrote:
You have admitted it is your MO. Are you honestly asking me to prove your admission correct? As I said, I took you at your word back in 2011. Were you lying?
I suppose I could Admin Hack your account and look at your PMs and tell you which ones to look at, but that's...not really how I operate.
I'm unclear why you're asking ME to prove a claim YOU made.
(And, yes, I'm expecting you, true to form, to passive-aggressively claim victory.)
His reply:
Sigh.
Good day.
Make of that what you will, folks.
Game On,
fbmf