deaddmwalking wrote:The problem with his analogy is that violation of our moral code is considered a pretty acceptable thing to game around not through.
No. The problem is you need to stop being such a dumb asshole and shut the fuck up. That is the problem. The problem is 100% that all you dumb assholes won't stop talking. That you won't stop doubling down on this inane bullshit. Fuck you. Shut up. Walk away with whatever dignity you can muster.
Look, Kaelik said exactly why he used the analogy he did. He used it because he could not think of
one other fucking thing that one of you dumb assholes wouldn't attempt to die on the hill of "that isn't bad enough to kick out of a game." He couldn't think of one fucking solitary thing, because the truth is that there genuinely isn't anything else that can get you dumb assholes to agree is over the line. Not. One. Fucking. Thing. We proved that when another option was mentioned and I didn't even have time to smell my own fart before one of you dumb assholes popped up like a whack-a-mole to stake that example out as the hill to die on for not being a thing that shouldn't be in a game. Fucking hell.
So Kaelik, having found the one fucking example in the entire universe that you dumb assholes will agree is bad enough to be a thing people are justified in banning from an RPG table, has found a wall of noise that you dumb assholes are whining that the example is
too bad. And he should have picked an example that was
less bad so you could get your raging argument erections out and argue that the example wasn't bad enough like you wanted to.
Well guess what? Fuck. You. Take your made up fainting couch and smelling salts and stuff them up your entire ass. The example isn't important, you're just being a bunch of shit weasels who refuse to engage with the structure or contents of the argument at hand. Choke on pig taint you dishonest lazy fuckers.
Here's the bottom line: you don't have the numbers to beat a dragon in any sort of basic combat maneuver contest that the rules organically generate unless you have a special ability or some very specific bonuses. You just fucking don't. Dragons have bigger numbers than you do at the levels they appear. That's what they
do. If a player asks to do a thing that their character lacks the abilities or the numbers to do, that is bullshit. And if the MC lets them do it, that's double bullshit. It's special pleading from the player, and it's offensive favoritism from the MC. And if you don't have a problem with that, fuck you - you're obviously part of the problem.
Should there be ways to cling onto a dragon and stab it in the back of the head? Sure. And you'll note that K and I
did make some. But you'll also note that people don't get to do it just for being whatever level. Dragons have a higher BAB than you do at the level they appear. You need a means to gain The Edge to make it a viable life goal. And you have to pick up some pretty serious bonuses to not get thrown off, because Dragons still have pretty nasty numbers for tearing you off.
So take your cheese slicer that you're attempting to take to Kaelik's argument and apply it to your left nipple. That would be a way more productive use of your time and a much more entertaining product for the rest of us to watch than having more of you dumb assholes trying to outlogic fucking
Kaelik. He's an actual fucking lawyer, and you are never ever going to beat him on a god damn technicality.
-Username17