Keith Olbermann Special Comment

[SphereOfFeetMan]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QEcBjpsP1bU

[Username17]

About time someone said that.

-Username17

[Cielingcat]

I love Keith Olbermann.

[Desdan_Mervolam]

I just wish we could stop jackholes from invoking things like Terrorists and Children to get what they want. "Vote for me or the terrorists will be able to kill more people", "If your senator doesn't vote for my bill, he doesn't care about the children!"

It's all horseshit, and it makes me smack people around.

-Desdan

[Crissa]

If only the rest of the guys on MSNBC weren't raging misogynists.

-Crissa

[Koumei]

That was completely awesome. The fact that it's true helps immensely.

[Captain_Bleach]

People who say "Think about the children!" only care about the children of households of people that agree with them. Or children that grow up as adults that would agree with them.

[Koumei]

Or they're paedophiles. I hear they think about children an awful lot.

[Draco_Argentum]

Thats the sort of commentary Bush deserves.

Does Olbermann always hit like a freight train?

[SphereOfFeetMan]

Does Olbermann always hit like a freight train?

He only does his Special Comment piece every once in a while, but when he has one it is overwhelming. Especially when contrasted with the default broadcast news. Youtube has a ton of his Special Comments. If you wanted you could watch a lot more like that one (revealing and criticizing the Bush administration). Post your favorites here if you like.

[tzor]

Well, as the official Republican on the board I feel I should have some sort of retort. Instead, I'll just say that I agree with his comment, one hundred percent.

And really how can you compare MSNBC reporters to Roman Catholic Priests.

[JonSetanta]

I'll vote for anyone that gets rid of these Marriage Works billboards all over my county.

[Captain_Bleach]

1203385575[/unixtime]]I'll vote for anyone that gets rid of these Marriage Works billboards all over my county.

A 60% divorce rate says otherwise, but why should reality get in the way of idealistic faith that the "one true path" will solve all your life's problems on your behalf?

[Username17]

Divorce rates are nowhere near as high as many people claim. Link. Our divorce rate has climbed as financial independence and life expectancy climb, but not proportionately to those increases. Simply put, people who don't live to get divorces don't divorce. However, people who stay married for 10 years are more likely to stay together for their whole lives than people who have been married only 1 year.

-Username17

[Koumei]

One thing I find odd is:

as more and more young couples choose to cohabit before marriage and as the "children of divorce" who are at a higher risk of divorcing enter into marriage themselves (Amato and Booth, 1996), there are chances that divorce rates could go up again one day.

Wouldn't cohabitation actually reduce the amount of divorces? Because one of the main problems is where people see each other and say "I like you, let's get married!" then realise what a dumb idea that was and get divorced. Probably extra-bad back when they had the whole "Oh noes, sex before marriage!", with all good little Christians running off to get married just so they could get laid, then divorcing the next day.

Whereas if people just spend a year or two living together first, then they'll know what each other's bad habits are, and whether they can live with those problems. They basically don't rush into things, and avoid the problem by not marrying people they couldn't live with. Wouldn't this therefore reduce the divorce rate instead of, as the site implied, increase it? Is there something I'm missing?

[Maj]

The most common hypothesis that I come across concerning the greater divorce rates of cohabiting couples is the instability of the relationship. Marriage isn't usually viewed as something permanent, and cohabitation tends to lead to less fidelity, weaker commitment, and poor coping/problem-solving skills. Loosely translated: the couple doesn't learn to be a couple insomuch as they learn to be two people who occupy the same space.

I don't know how much I buy that, but I don't really have a better hypothesis myself.

[Username17]

I chalk it up to the fact that the highest divorce rates are in the 5th year of marriage. So people who have cohabitated for a year or two are actually closer to the make or break point when we start counting them in divorce statistics than people who didn't.

-Username17

[Absentminded_Wizard]

I suspect it's because people's behaviors and expectations change the second they put on a wedding ring. I have no personal experience with this, but the way my mom's relationship with her husband developed provides some interesting anecdotal evidence.

They lived together for about a year before the wedding in order to save money on bills. Shortly after their wedding, one of mom's friends at work asked me how they were getting along now that they were married. I took Koumei's position and figured that since they had lived together it should be smooth sailing. She said, "Oh no, it all changes when you get married."
Within a month, they were fighting like cats and dogs, over money and things you'd think they'd have worked out by now.

Now that I think about it, one of my ex-coworkers lived with her husband before marriage and had tons of problems after they exchanged vows. In fact, she was known to run around saying things like, "Marriage sucks. It ruins a good thing."

I don't know if it's that people let their guard down after marriage or what. I suspect that before marriage, even if the couple's living together, they still feel a need to impress each other to a certain extent. Then when they finally get married, they think they don't have to work at the relationship any more, and each partner thinks the other will automatically settle into their idea of how a marriage ought to work.

Of course, I only have two samples to work with, so I could be wrong.

Edit: BTW, both those couples are still together, but I can see from their experiences how easy it would be for a couple to divorce after cohabiting before marriage.

[Maj]

Then when they finally get married, they think they don't have to work at the relationship any more, and each partner thinks the other will automatically settle into their idea of how a marriage ought to work.

I see this a lot. I have no idea what makes people think that just because they've gotten married, they can slack off and stop working so hard to keep their relationship going well, but it's pretty common.

[Count Arioch the 28th]

My experiences have lead me to be convinced that I will never get married ever again. The second you get a ring on a woman's finger, she stops putting out and starts demanding you support her while she sits around and plays video games. And buy her a house too. Not the one you already own, a bigger one.

[tzor]

I sense a candidate for the priesthood here.

(Hey don't knock it, you can squeeze another eight years of college after you get your other degree.)

[angelfromanotherpin]

I sense a Moleman.

"Hello, this is Moleman in the morning. Good Moleman to you. Today part four of our series of the agonizing pain in which I live eeevery daaaay."

[Count Arioch the 28th]

Actually, things might change in the future. I pikced up the books "The Rules of the Game", and hopefully I can learn how to properly get a woman to date me, seeing as how my previous technique has been less than effective.