Quotes 2017

erik · Post by **erik** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:44 pm

erik's dad: I will give you my million dollar bill in my will. That means when I die then you will get it. (Discussing a novelty dollar)
son 1: Oh, so not for a long time... Or maybe not so long.

Later that day.
erik's dad: (trying to get son 1 to eat new foods) maybe I'll put some conditions in my will
erik: like no foul play.
son 1: I'll be patient.

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:56 am

"I didn't kill him because he was crazy. I killed him because he was making sense."

(technically may be in book pre-2017, but I caught it in a 2017 aired episode, so there)

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:06 am

"Gotta stop comparing Trump to Hitler, the latter spent a lot of money on conservation"
-Me yesterday, reading some news about the EPA

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:32 pm

FrankTrollman wrote:But yes, I think that we should replace most of our memes and political discussions with fringe porn.

-Username17

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:10 pm

"The thing is, this nightmare could be ended by a handful of Republican legislators willing to make common cause with Democrats to demand the truth. And maybe there are enough people of conscience left in the G.O.P.

But there probably aren’t. And that’s a problem that’s even scarier than the Trump-Putin axis." -Krugman

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:56 pm

"Any hobby, taken to a sufficient extreme, leads to carpentry."

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:15 pm

"if suicide squad can win an oscar, then you can do anything"
- Some person on twitter

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:06 pm

Wait, Suicide Squad won an Oscar? For reals? What for? Excessive edge?

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:06 pm

Wait, Suicide Squad won an Oscar? What for? Excessive edge?

GreatGreyShrike · Post by **GreatGreyShrike** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:17 pm

Apparantly, hairstyling and makeup. Which... fair enough, those were reasonably OK parts of a film that was *otherwise* tremendously shitty.

schpeelah · Post by **schpeelah** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:20 pm

Shrapnel wrote:Wait, Suicide Squad won an Oscar? What for? Excessive edge?

Best Makeup and Hair Design

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:09 pm

What do libertarians think about the unlicensed trade in addictive drugs? Similar to the unlicensed trade in butter. Government shouldn’t tell us what we can buy and sell.

If we free the slaves, who will pick the cotton?

Taxes are a means. Services, like schools, roads, police, etc., are the ends. Libertarians are not looking at a different form of the same means. They look for more peaceful ways of achieving desired ends.

In other words, it is not about a different form of slavery. It is about picking cotton without slavery.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:16 pm

You should really source a quote like that, so I know who to sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:43 pm

Libertarians should not discuss actual slave holding in the real world. Because their philosophy is incapable of presenting a coherent reason why taking slaves away from their owners is right once the slave owners already own the slaves. Their stupid nonviolence postulate can explain why it's wrong to kidnap and enslave someone who is free, but it cannot be used to explain why it's a good thing to free the chattels of someone who currently owns people. The Great Emancipation is unquestionably a good thing, but Libertarian philosophy cannot tell you why. Freeing slaves is not Pareto Efficient. The slave owner has to lose his property, and you have to take it from him by force.

-Username17

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:39 pm

Kaelik wrote:You should really source a quote like that, so I know who to sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress.

https://www.quora.com/profile/Rob-Weir

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-liber ... r/Rob-Weir

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:43 pm

FrankTrollman wrote:Libertarians should not discuss actual slave holding in the real world. Because their philosophy is incapable of presenting a coherent reason why taking slaves away from their owners is right once the slave owners already own the slaves. Their stupid nonviolence postulate can explain why it's wrong to kidnap and enslave someone who is free, but it cannot be used to explain why it's a good thing to free the chattels of someone who currently owns people. The Great Emancipation is unquestionably a good thing, but Libertarian philosophy cannot tell you why. Freeing slaves is not Pareto Efficient. The slave owner has to lose his property, and you have to take it from him by force.

-Username17

That's pretty easy. People cannot be property, and keeping them enslaved with threat of force is an ongoing act of violence.

No, where Libertarian-Capitalism fails is defacto slavery due to disproportionate control of resources. If you live in a company town with no other options but to sign on for a lifetime of serfdom, you're technically free in a Libertarian Capitalist sense, because you could always choose to starve to death. Wage slavery is much more insidious than chattel slavery. In chattel slavery, the threat of violence is limited and comes for a single sources. It can be escaped. In wage slavery, the threat of death is both totally passive but completely inescapable.

Which is why Libertarian Socialists see control of the means of production by individuals or corporations as extremely bad.

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:50 pm

hyzmarca wrote: No, where Libertarian-Capitalism fails is defacto slavery due to disproportionate control of resources. If you live in a company town with no other options but to sign on for a lifetime of serfdom, you're technically free in a Libertarian Capitalist sense, because you could always choose to starve to death. Wage slavery is much more insidious than chattel slavery. In chattel slavery, the threat of violence is limited and comes for a single sources. It can be escaped. In wage slavery, the threat of death is both totally passive but completely inescapable.

Which is why Libertarian Socialists see control of the means of production by individuals or corporations as extremely bad.

Is being indebted the worst situation in life? Worse is needing the money, but not being able to become indebted.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:14 pm

hyzmarca wrote:That's pretty easy. People cannot be property, and keeping them enslaved with threat of force is an ongoing act of violence.

If you acknowledge that personal ownership of property that is generally recognized by society can be bad if that ownership negatively affects other people, then you've abandoned the entire Libertarian argument against taxation. Your ownership of property is no longer sacrosanct, so there's no reason to not have the government take some of it if it improves the lives of other people.

All Libertarianism is just a shell game, where things they like are "nonviolent" and things they don't like are "violent." But the underlying logic is just that they want to do things they want to do and don't want to pay taxes. There's no moral consistency or clarity to be had.

And bringing up actual periods in history where the government radically changed who owned what and it was good just makes those internal inconsistencies all the more obvious.

-Username17

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:09 am

"As someone who makes his living on active news cycles, I want to thank AG Sessions for choosing his fist lie to Congress to be about Russia."

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:12 pm

"It's like the collapse of the Roman Empire but with wi-fi."

sendaz · Post by **sendaz** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:07 pm

Ancient History wrote:"It's like the collapse of the Roman Empire but with wi-fi."

3t 2 brah?

#thefallofrome

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:38 am

Because people get offended when you tell them your credentials in the middle of a debate, I'm listing them here:
I'm a genius with around 150 IQ.(Not an internet test. Rolling Eyes )
Roughly 90% wins in 40k
Top 20% of every major GT entered, including the LVO and Adepticon
I can look at 2 units w/ their special rules and tell you which one is better in X circumstance without doing math.
I hope these things help you to understand me as a person, so that I don't come across as arrogant when I talk to you. I'm not normal. The difference between my IQ and the average person is greater than the difference between the average person and someone who is mentally retarded. Imagine everyone around you being very slow to understand, if at all, of all of the things you instantly understand. It makes interaction difficult. People take offense easily. I mean no offense. Please forgive me.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Heh, that undercuts itself so obliviously as to be hilarious.

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:36 pm

He should get a dog. My dog was both way dumber than me and infinitely more popular. It was a very instructive life experience.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:52 am

I have an IQ of 170, tested in high school. The test is really not the be all end all indicator for actual intelligence that people think it is.