That's not it at all.Stahlseele wrote:Some people do not like the idea of immortal elves and dragons in their cyberpunk setting. No idea why, because that has been the case before the earthdawn stuff happened as far as i remember.
The Earthdawn connections are crap because Shadowrun is supposed to be Earth plus Magic, but Earthdawn is some dude's AD&D campaign world. Earthdawn's history is totally incompatible with real world history, and every piece of Earthdawn connection they brought in made it just a little bit harder to do that.
As for the immortal elves and dragons, people didn't really bject to their being dragons or even immortals. People objected to the specific masturabatory properties those immortals and great dragons got. It's fine there being ancient immortals who have ancient secrets. What's totally not fine is having characters in the setting whose statline is "the players automatically lose." And it's not OK to have dragons who just personally rock out with their cock out and smash their way through the biggest military in the setting and say "my penis is too big, my rules now!" Because that's fucking retarded.
Dunkelzahn is fine. Ghostwalker is not. Harlequin is not. Fuck those guys. Lazy ass shit writing that crapped on the setting and player agency for no fucking reason.
-Username17