The search for the table as a weapon

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:16 am

I'm trying to find this one thread/post made by Frank where he talked about the table as an improvised weapon, but Google has been less than helpful. Much appreciation if you recall the title.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:24 am

Size Medium to Large object depending on the type of table. Like a club.
Around 1d8 to 1d0 Bludgeon damage.

Don't know anything about Frank's interpretation...

Post by **fbmf** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:29 pm

The original thread was strated by K back when he was an unregistered guest, and we had trouble porting those threads over. Back on the old TGDMB, the thread is here:

http://bb.bbboy.net/thegamingden-viewth ... &postnum=0

Game On,
fbmf

Bigode · Post by **Bigode** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:13 pm

The thread itself wasn't my business, but what's one supposed to do with a nonworking link?

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:49 pm

The table as a weapon can be found in Complete Warrior. It's a table, so it can be used as an improvised shield. It has legs, so you can use it to trip and disarm well. If it's big enough I think it gives reach.

Post by **fbmf** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:14 pm

The link works for me, but Ramnza confirms it does not for her. Strange.

Anyway...

K wrote: I'd like to present to you the perfect weapon:

--Two-handed, so it does bigger Power Attacks.

--Adds a +2 shield bonus, so you can enchant it like a magic shield and you can get your shield bonus while two-handed fighting, and without any feats used.

--Adds a +2 to bull rushes.

--damage = 3d6/x2

-Downside: must be enchanted as a +3 weapon, or else you suffer a -4 to hit with it. Also, enchanting it as armor or weapon costs double.

What is it?

A large table....., as per the Improvised Weapon rules on page 158-159 of the Complete Warrior.

Enchant it as a Karmic Table +1 (thus granting proficiiency in "Table"), then enchant it as a shield, maybe get a cleric or wizzy to boost its weapon bonus, and you are good to go.

Awesome.

He later said instead of Karmic Weapon what he meant was the Skillful enhancement from Complete Arcane page 144

Someone else pointed out it could also grant total cover in certain circumstances.

Game On,
fbmf

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:17 pm

The old board appears to be in maintenence mode, so none of us can see it.

Post by **fbmf** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:40 am

I took it out of maintenance mode. It didn't help.

Game On,
fbmf

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:04 am

CatharzGodfoot wrote:The table as a weapon can be found in Complete Warrior. It's a table, so it can be used as an improvised shield. It has legs, so you can use it to trip and disarm well. If it's big enough I think it gives reach.

AND you can eat off of it.

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:25 am

Wow, didn't expect that kind of help. Thanks muchly. I was looking at the Complete Warrior earlier in regard to seeing what a chair could do, and was uncertain that you could throw disarm in there. I can tell you one thing, you don't neccessarily need to enchant it, and just say you're always fighting defensively when you use it

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The old forum seems to be kaput in general, except for the front page, and the progress to actually reach the link with the new site to it open. I've been using Google to read the cached posts.

SunTzuWarmaster · Post by **SunTzuWarmaster** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:23 am

It is in Complete Warrior for the Drunken Master prestige class, who gets bonuses for attacking with the table.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:28 pm

first, one of the benefits of the table is that you can enchant it as both a weapon and a shield, and a nice dm might say that the wizard will enchant it as both on a "two for one price deal."

second, the chair's (or table, or bench, or whatever) legs can be used to disarm by catching weapon and such. Think of a mancatcher or trident.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:35 pm

Dudes.
An enchanted Flaming Shocking Chair +3 would be an AWESOME WEAPON

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:38 am

In one campaign, I made the first attack roll of the game. It was with a table. It was a critical hit. We called it 2d6 plus Strength and a half. So fifty points of damage later (to a regular goblin), the game continued...

Bigode · Post by **Bigode** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:04 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:first, one of the benefits of the table is that you can enchant it as both a weapon and a shield, and a nice dm might say that the wizard will enchant it as both on a "two for one price deal."

Considering it can't be done to an actual shield, the proper name is "an ignorant GM".

Fwib · Post by **Fwib** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:57 pm

Bigode wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:first, one of the benefits of the table is that you can enchant it as both a weapon and a shield, and a nice dm might say that the wizard will enchant it as both on a "two for one price deal."
Considering it can't be done to an actual shield, the proper name is "an ignorant GM".

Unless I am misunderstanding you, sure you can enchant a regular shield as a weapon - shield spikes! (not on a tower shield though, which the Wartable has the functionality of)

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:11 pm

Bigode refers to the fact that enchanting a shield as a weapon is a completely seperate endeavor from enchanting it as a shield. Having a +1 shield means you pay 1000gp for a +1 shield bonus (or enhancement bonus to the shield bonus, whatever). You need to pay 3000gp to have it be usable as both a +1 weapon & +1 shield.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:53 pm

Chair spikes.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:04 pm

Edit: I live and I learn.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:29 am

"c:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\Player_Weapons.jpg"

Maxus, you might want to upload it to PhotoBucket and THEN link! haha

Edit: that's much better now

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:10 am

and then there's player designed clothing...

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:24 am

That is all.

-Username17

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:39 am

Holy shit, that is AWESOME.

Fwib · Post by **Fwib** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:52 pm

Is there a proper name for that oriental weapon evolved from a table? [edit]Although, reading the text on the DVD case, it seems that one actually evolved from a chair...

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:04 pm

No, fwib.

-Crissa