Yeah sorry I didn't mean to leave it hanging like that, I got distracted then forgot to add it before posting. I guess I don't have any links handy atm, but I definitely remember lots of vitriole about child Anakin and how he could pilot and build/rebuild droids and pod racers. Are we confined to SW? I also complained loudly about that movie Kingdom of Heaven, the Orlando Bloom character (a blacksmith?) was way too good at other things too, like combat/architecture/agriculture.erik wrote:Example pls? I really don't remember people being butthurt about new characters being too skilled before TFA. I'm sure it has happened, but I'd sure like an example to compare to. There were complaints about Jar-Jar and Anakin just killing people by incredible luck, but that's a different complaint versus being too competent.
She flies the falcon really well, even though she's only in-movie flown a speeder and no reason why she would have skill flying a much larger, more complicated craft. Taken by itself, not a big deal...many other SW characters have done this, Anakin, Luke, etc. But then on to...erik wrote:pilot - flies a land speeder. For all we know she has piloted other crafts, since she says she can pilot. Finn says he can handle a blaster even though up to that point all he has done is hold his dick during the first battle of his life. Can't we trust when a character says they have some background training as it being indicated?
Displays great proficiency with staff and hth. Ok, school of hard knocks, maybe not a big deal but now combining with great piloting from above, on to...erik wrote:fight - displays proficiency at hand to hand by defeating several larger ambushers, school of hard knocks
For this, not padding - I think saber combat is distinct from "normal" hth. Although now I'm drawing from out-of-movie information about how lightsabers, because they are practically weightless wands of flaming death, need the guiding will and training of a Force-user to be effective. Like, ooops I chopped off my leg because I didn't realize I moved the saber that way because it's weightless. And saber combat relies heavily on using the Force to help guide the moves and the saber etc. I remember fan theories about Finn maybe also being Force-sensitive, since he was able to use a lightsaber so well too. So that's 3 things she's really good at with no in-movie justification for it, things are starting to pile up a little, then on to...erik wrote:saber - already covered by "fight". it's a practically weightless wand of flaming death. If you can fight with a staff then this is easy mode. Unlike Rey, Luke has no reason to be proficient with melee weapons.Why even include this separate from "fight"? Are you just trying to pad your count of complaints?
If your explanation is to throw up your hands and say "it's magic", that's a bad excuse and bad writing. Up to this point, most (all?) Force users are shown to have had SOME kind of training. Maybe it can happen, maybe she just wants it really hard, maybe the Force just does what the Force does...but now it's starting to be a longer list and we're on to...erik wrote:force - its barely-explained magic that is intuitive. people with lots of potential come into it pretty damn easily.
I don't really have a problem with this, except when you say "her primary skill set" it looks like everything is in her primary skill set. So she can do everything else and fix really well too and...erik wrote:fix - she's a scrapper. jury rigging and repairs are probably her primary skill set.
I sort of agree with you on this one - after the fact, it does kind of feel like I'm padding with this one. But again, it's one more thing she can do, and does well (if not great).erik wrote:shoot - it's a pistol not rocket science. She shoots two guys. She doesn't have perfect accuracy. It's not like she mows down a whole platoon...you are just trying to pad the count.
I don't remember this scene that well, but it could be something I guess. *sigh* I should rewatch the movie(s), but I really don't wannaangelfromanotherpin wrote:How about her contact with Anakin's lightsaber and the visions that overtake her? Obi-wan's voice speaks to her, telling her that 'these are your first steps.' It's not a formal training scene, but it is something.
This isn't a gotcha, but is there any example of something Rey tries to do and can't do ? Any character flaws like whining about power converters or bragging about being such a great pilot themselves?