That's odd. Part of sympathetic characters is making the audience relate to them. And I want to be clear, I'm not talking about otherkinism "I'M BOJACK IN A HUMAN BODY!" I'm talking about "Oh. Oh, that depressed, socially broken horseman... that hits really close to home."Aryxbez wrote:I'm a fan of Rick & Morty, though I don't "relate to" characters in media, moreso I'm interested in finding them entertaining/funny/interesting. Which point Rick & Morty has been interesting, much like Season 3+ Bojack, Golden-Ages Simpsons, 90's Family Guy, Durarara!, and so forth.
It's purely anecdotal, but I have seen a lot of people get into 5e, preferring it to Pathfinder or older editions of D&D.I do question the veracity of this statement, as it's marketed that a lot more people have started playing, but we don't know how many, and the Actual number still seems implied to be low, despite what WoTC? would want us to think. Unless of course I missed some vital data-points on this topic in the last several years, which case a refresher would be appreciated.Prak wrote:The one absolute good thing about 5e is that it has brought a lot of people to the hobby that were previously turned off by the toxic elements of the player base. This is variously attributable to 5e's progressive social attitudes, and the fact that it's extremely light rules facilitate more social play that's closer to forum RP with a bare framework than incredibly granular hack and slash.
Iunno. Looking up what ability a task is covered by, arguing about advantage or disadvantage, and then rolling some number of d20s and adding a relatively small number seems within the realm of drunk play. It's mostly when you have a systemhead like me that the more complicated stuff comes out.Could you indicate what these "toxic elements" were, and/or what people were saying it was? Additionally, isn't 5e rules-lite, but not "lite" enough you can play it casually/drunk, but lacks depth to really want to dive into it, plus it breaks too easily?
The toxic elements mostly being the oldschool Grognards like Shadzar. Or predatory shits like Zak.