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ARGH Wizards is moronic

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So, Penny arcade created the Wichalok in mockery of many D&D things.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/1/16/ (and after that, rather amusing)

Now, Wizards in their infinite wisdom are publishing this as a REAL CLASS.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20090401

What's worse is that the Penny Arcade people made it. This is a fan-created class, made by someone popular, and added right into PHB3.

ARGH.
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Actually, i's not going into anything, it was put out as an April Fools joke.

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Post by TavishArtair »

... what Frank said. You got pranked, dude.

Besides, I'd much rather play the Archivist in a game session: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/charact ... hivist.xml
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The Archivist could have been awesome. I wanted to play one until I reread the paragraph and noticed he was fighting books.
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My fav weapons in WoW are some books I picked up ^-^ Only thing a Druid can dual-wield.

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Post by DeadlyReed »

If you want moronic, Wizards just pulled all sales of thier PDFs.

Furthermore, if you already purchased them, you won't be able to download them anymore. :/
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DeadlyReed wrote:If you want moronic, Wizards just pulled all sales of thier PDFs.

Furthermore, if you already purchased them, you won't be able to download them anymore. :/
Nice... fight piracy by ensuring that the only way to find pdf's of your products is through piracy.

It is interesting that they're trying this and the lawsuit after the PHB2 release and not back when the bloody core rulebooks got leaked weeks before they were actually suppose to come out.

I smell massive sales dives...

Edit: On second thought, I smell a "Buy the PDFs from our shiny new 1st party site!" press release coming very soon...
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Post by TavishArtair »

Or new and dumber management. The changing of the guard, either by reassignment, firing, or just office politics, has always been the cause of many D&D screwjobs. Including, yes, 3.5 edition.
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Post by Gelare »

sake wrote:
DeadlyReed wrote:If you want moronic, Wizards just pulled all sales of thier PDFs.

Furthermore, if you already purchased them, you won't be able to download them anymore. :/
Nice... fight piracy by ensuring that the only way to find pdf's of your products is through piracy.
What, seriously? They actually did that? Did someone make a misclick in their office, or are they seriously that brain-damaged? I mean, for heavens' sake, the problem here is not the legitimate channel through which people can pay you for your product, and removing that can't possibly put you in a better place than you started.
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Damn, I was looking forward to buy a few more PDFs of books I missed from 3.5.
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Seriously, they did that. And no, They are not kidding.

Considering that this is the company that gave out the core rules pdfs for free as a .pdf torrent less than a year ago this strikes me as especially dumb. It is indeed no secret that 4e has been a financial disaster. Most likely the idea is that someone somewhere thinks that if they directly sell the pdfs that their sales will stay the same and they'll keep all the profits and go back into the black even at current total sales figures.

This plan is delusional. Your product appearing in open marketplaces under third party retail supervision is a form of advertising. If your stuff only chills on your own servers it won't sell as many copies.

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Re: ARGH Wizards is moronic

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SunTzuWarmaster wrote:So, Penny arcade created the Wichalok in mockery of many D&D things.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/1/16/ (and after that, rather amusing)

Now, Wizards in their infinite wisdom are publishing this as a REAL CLASS.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20090401

What's worse is that the Penny Arcade people made it. This is a fan-created class, made by someone popular, and added right into PHB3.

ARGH.
Like Frank said, old news. I posted this up a week ago. The class is actually decent (well, one ability anyway; but it's usable at will and is made of WTFPWN and win) for a joke class. Making the 'real' classes look like joke classes.

It is a bad thing thing when the joke suggestion is more effective than the serious suggestion.
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Post by TOZ »

Of course, now they have their new "online retailer support policy" up. I'm not sure how closing outlets for their products is supposed to help their sales.
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Post by Starmaker »

Wat. I've read the policy and it concerns Magic. The definition of Customer in the text is "someone who buys Magic for personal use". Probably trying to fight foil weighters or something. Good luck with that, yeah, but what does it have to do with books?
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Mostly establishing a precedent for them to apply to book sales. They've already nixed the PDFs as mentioned before.
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I don't think their contract is even legal.

Which isn't to say I don't think their idea of requiring people they work with to have physical storefronts isn't a bad idea... It's just not something they have the legal right to demand. They're pretending as if their logos are something not just anyone can produce, but that too, is wrong. They're asking for information in return for information they have no right to have and no legal way to use.

What they really want to do is what Microsoft does, which is 'certification' which the retailer could then put in their window or website. But that'd require actually checking out the retailer to make sure they're really there.

Which they obviously aren't doing.

Lowest bidder in CEO land brings us crazy. Actually, maybe this is more like what happens when cousins marry...

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Post by sake »

On a completly unrelated note, White Wolf has decided to offer up the Exalted corebook for free download this week.

Yeah... the system still kind of blows, but that does earn WW some points to me.
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