[Dom3] Learning Game

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:42 am

Ikeren wrote:
No, I didn't forget that Vanheim has access to sailing, because up until this post I did not even know that a thing called sailing even existed in this game, or what the fuck it is or how it works.
This sums up so many Dom3 moments for me.

The very first thing I do before a war is to crack open the Dominions wiki and make a test game of the opposing nation just to see what kind of stuff they have.

It's just good tactical sense to do so; and like some guy said "Know your enemy, know yourself" and all that.

Ikeren · Post by **Ikeren** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:31 am

I was doing that, but then I started to have insufficient time to do that.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:20 pm

Jeez, kinda annoying when your home province lab burns down.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:22 pm

Zinegata wrote:Jeez, kinda annoying when your home province lab burns down.

Yeah it is.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:26 am

Hey folks, I'll be putting up forge of the ancients real soon now. That would be really exciting if I were LA Ermor, but as it is, it's fairly uninteresting. Mostly, I'd like to mess around with some of the nice toys, but can't afford them.

Here's the part that makes you care: when it goes up, I'll be open to forging things at a discount! Prices to be negotiated, but I'm pretty sure we can work something out. It's really the best of both worlds: you get cheap stuff and you don't have to pay a huge surcharge in earth gems.

There's only one catch, I don't have a lot of forgers. I can make you lots of low level death stuff, but otherwise it's going to be slow going.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:11 am

Vanheim would really, really like Skull Mentors. As many as possible. We can pay in Earth most likely (albeit I can prolly pay in Water or Fire too), or finished Earthen goods like Dwarven Hammers or Earth Boots.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Ouch. I guess you would.

We can work something out. PM me an offer, and I can get you a few fairly quick. Bulk will take some time.

le petit caporal · Post by **le petit caporal** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:17 pm

Zinegata said:

"The very first thing I do before a war is to crack open the Dominions wiki and make a test game of the opposing nation just to see what kind of stuff they have.

It's just good tactical sense to do so; and like some guy said "Know your enemy, know yourself" and all that."

Dude

It's a great idea, but how do you do it?

Doesn't it it take a bit of work to move a game along far enough to see how all of their toys play?

Ya' wanna beginner, you got one ... me. I'd don't know jack about this game but I know tactics, and your primer on concentration of mass was spot on, it applies to everything. There is only one better tool, take the enemies balance. That is what the raiding into the enemy rear did for you. It comes out the way it always does ... against the unaware enemy ... it hurts. And they panic.

But take it easy on these guys. If they are new, they translate into tomorrow's experienced and challenging opponents. They are more fun that way. Just nurture, you benefit. If you are too ugly ... they go F' this! And a challenge of the future is lost.

In closing, Zin, I like your post and Franks also

Tschuss

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:04 pm

le petit caporal wrote:Dude

It's a great idea, but how do you do it?

Doesn't it it take a bit of work to move a game along far enough to see how all of their toys play?

First of all, check out the Vanheim Pretender creation guide I did on page 4:

http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=52982& ... c&start=75

In general, the wiki should give you some basic idea on the relative cost and abilities of your troops. For instance, I point out that a TC Minister of Magic costs 70 gold only and provides 5 research without needing a lab, whereas a Vanherese costs more than twice that while providing only 4 research. That should tell you immediately that you'll be in a research disadvantage if you're facing TC and all other things are equal.

Moreover, most of the nations have guides on them anyway in the wiki page, which also gives you an idea of how they work - i.e. Abysia is a nation of slow infantry (occassionally supplemented by Devil raiders), Vanheim is a raiding nation with good troops, etc. Personally, part of the fun is doing the homework on the various nations.

Secondly, do test games. I generally like to just do a few turns with another nation, but there are tools available (mods) which let you test out various army configurations.

Ya' wanna beginner, you got one ... me.

Strictly speaking, given that I've only played three actual MP games so far (and two caretaking doomed nations), I'm pretty much a noob too. I just make it a point to take more steps to prepare for a game than others do.

This game's ongoing though, so you'll prolly need to wait until people die off and start a new game.

koz · Post by **koz** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:19 pm

Little corporal person: Given that the game I'm currently in is going to end soon (and not in my favour, I'm guessing), there might be another game opening soon. Keep an eye out.

le petit caporal · Post by **le petit caporal** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:14 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:Little corporal person: Given that the game I'm currently in is going to end soon (and not in my favour, I'm guessing), there might be another game opening soon. Keep an eye out.

I appreciate the offer, but I would like to have a bit more of a clue about what I am doing first. It is one thing to do something embarrassingly stupid, but quite another to do it in front of people.
LOL

NZ, the place looks beautiful.

koz · Post by **koz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm

le petit caporal wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Little corporal person: Given that the game I'm currently in is going to end soon (and not in my favour, I'm guessing), there might be another game opening soon. Keep an eye out.
I appreciate the offer, but I would like to have a bit more of a clue about what I am doing first. It is one thing to do something embarrassingly stupid, but quite another to do it in front of people.
LOL

NZ, the place looks beautiful.

Do what I did - post every turn with screenies, and the people here can give you very useful tips. Besides, I'm a newbie myself, and even though I'm likely gonna lose the game I'm in, I've learned lots, and that's what counts.

le petit caporal · Post by **le petit caporal** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:36 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:
le petit caporal wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Little corporal person: Given that the game I'm currently in is going to end soon (and not in my favour, I'm guessing), there might be another game opening soon. Keep an eye out.
I appreciate the offer, ... embarrassingly stupid, ....
Do what I did - post every turn with screenies, and the people here can give you very useful tips. Besides, I'm a newbie myself, and even though I'm likely gonna lose the game I'm in, I've learned lots, and that's what counts.

You are on. How is it done? I have never read the manual on this ... ever

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:25 am

Turn 39 is corrupt for me, and is still corrupt after resending.
What do?

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:15 am

Re-run the turn methinks

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:28 am

Delete the savegame folder redownload?

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:02 pm

I've already resent the turn even, so just redownloading isn't going to do it.

Winnah · Post by **Winnah** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:13 pm

I have had the same problem in the past. Kept downloading a corrupted file. I cleared my cache, then asked for another resend.

edit: I suspect it was caused by the e-mail provider I use.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:21 pm

If we want an backroll you need to PN Avo, I don't think he follows this thread anymore.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:23 pm

I'll try more after work.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:20 pm

I can't make it work. I'll go ahead and stale this turn (no big plans this time at least), and hope next turn is better.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:03 am

this turn works for you?

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:59 pm

This turn worked fine.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:25 am

With Atlantis finaly domkilled, we are on quickhost again.
As soon as Ermor sends his turn, we get an new on.

Ermor migth want to do the next turn immediatly.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:08 pm

sorry 'bout that.