POKEYMANS thread

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:11 am

Or if it takes into account letter/number[or symbol] cyphers. Like D@MN CAT

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:26 pm

At the very least, anus, asshole, butthole, and bunghole is not accepted (I tried to name the Gen V rock butt those.) I will try more (should have gone with Sphincter, but that might not have worked either.)

Also forgot to mention in my earlier list, both Player and Pokemon names can now be up to 12 characters in length, which is another good thing.

Progress Update: I just beat the Fighting Gym with my ghost sword that knows Aerial Ace and has a Sharp Beak tied to it. Oddly enough, the Gym Leader uses Lucario in an earlier battle outside the Gym, doesn't use it at all in the Gym (she has a Mienfoo, a Machoke, and a Hawklucha, which appears to be Fighting/Flying.) And apparently I need to duel her AGAIN in the mandatory "ancient plot device tower" and she says that she'll be mega evolving her Lucario. Hopefully I can evolve my Wartortle (only needs 2 levels) so I can mega evolve and murder her. I also hope I get to knock her off the tower or something after jumping through all these hoops. She's been easy to beat in the last two matches but it's getting on my nerves that I have to run off to distant locations just to fight her 3 times over the course of an hour.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:29 pm

Sphinxter

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:35 pm

At one point it wouldnt let me use Kill or Murder in my pokemon name, so now my Froakie is called Dr.Slaughter because apparently that's allowed.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:58 am

I love you guys sometimes.

And that's sad, regarding anus - in 5Gen, I couldn't name Roggenrola "Anal", but I could name it "Anus". Which I did. That stopped making sense the moment it evolved, of course, because it goes from "that's seriously an asshole" to "BIG STONE MONSTER". Not since Magikarp -> Gyarados has there been such a transformation.

I'm sort of wishing I had started with Froakie: post-game you get another starter (if you chose Froakie you get Fennekin, if you chose Fennekin you get Chespin, if you chose Chespin you get Froakie), and NINJA FROG seems much more awesome than FIGHTING CHESTNUT TREE.

And in my quest to CATCH EM ALL, I think I've overlevelled. I haven't reached the second gym yet and MR. BURNS (Fennekin -> Braixen) is now level 26. I'm actually close to the level limit for obedience, which has never happened before outside of trading a level 100 Graveler across at the start of Pearl (which was hilarious, because every single time, "Golem uses EXPLOSION!")

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:18 am

Dr.Slaughter reminds me of a werewolf from this book set in Victorian times.

This werewolf nobleman was the Lord of Upper Slaughter, a village up around Devonshire. Commonly called Lord Slaughter.

Anyway. I think I'll save up and spring for this. Sounds like Pokemon became awesome again.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:03 am

I suppose it's time for another status update:
[*]You fight Lucario Lady for the third time in Lucario-on-Lucario action (she gives you one of hers), but she gives you the ring first so you get to Mega-Evolve it and therefore just spam your Fighting move and kill hers before it can act. Then you get to keep it, although you can only Mega Evolve one thing at a time and so I prefer to Mega Evolve my Blastoise most of the time.
[*]You're given a Lapras right after you get the Surf HM, but at this point it's incredibly likely that you have either a Frog Ninja or a Blastoise and therefore this isn't as good as some of the free Pokemon you've gotten. But Lapras is still good, and Surf even better.
[*]4th Gym is a Grass-type Gym. It has lots of rope climbing, where as the 2nd Gym has rock climbing. At this point I have a Flying Pokemon, an Ice Pokemon, a Poison Pokemon, and a Fire Pokemon all on my team. So this Gym basically takes all of a minute to complete. Most notable thing is that the Grass Gym Leader is an old man gardener.
[*]Team Flare is stealing electricity from the Power Plant, because criminal organizations in Pokemon are required by law to attack either a museum or a power plant. Or both. But they go down really easily and run off saying that they have all the energy they needed, like they were DBZ villains.
[*]The 5th Gym is basically the Cinnabar Island Gym, only with more elevators, filled with Electric trainers and run by a younger Doctor Octopus. He's actually one of the harder Gym Leaders; he has Lady Gaga's Pachirsu with wings Emolga as his weakest Pokemon. Others are a Heliolisk; it knows Grass Knot and used it to murder my Rhyhorn) and a Magneton (which knows Mirror Shot, and used it to murder my revived Rhyhorn. But then my Fire starter killed it with fire.) Doc Ock gives you the Thunderbolt TM when you kick his sorry ass.
[*]Then you have to go to Cafe Lysander. This takes fucking forever because it's in the city of 1500 cafes. You do all of this because Professor Sycamore forces asks you to meet Lysander, the evil inventor of the Holo-whatever system that's less ugly than the Champion of Black/White but just as much of a pedophile. He's interested in Mega Evolution and hopes that it will change the world. And everyone knows that if you want to change the world in Pokemon, you're a villain or a tool of the villains. They're not even trying to hide that he's head of Team Flare at this point; the people in the cafe (other than the professor) are all saying how cool Team Flare is, even.

That's where I'm at now; my team are all in their late 30s to early 40s.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:40 am

Darth Rabbitt wrote:You're given a Lapras right after you get the Surf HM, but at this point it's incredibly likely that you have either a Frog Ninja or a Blastoise and therefore this isn't as good as some of the free Pokemon you've gotten. But Lapras is still good, and Surf even better.

Awesome, I'm putting up with Splash Monkey as part of "smack rocks in the face" set-up, and I think it's stupid. Obviously I went for the Fire Starter, and then THE OTHER FIRE STARTER. This isn't just an obsession with fire, it's partly the fact that every other Pokemon game makes you wait 2/3s of the game before you can catch a Fire one, and also Fire-Psychic is pretty rad, and Charizard is the best forever.

So getting Lapras, one of the original Bolt-Beamers, will be pretty cool.

4th Gym is a Grass-type Gym.

Grass, you say?

laughingbraixenandcharizard.gif

Then you have to go to Cafe Lysander. This takes fucking forever because it's in the city of 1500 cafes.

You fucking know this one is set in France. Sure, the French words and the flowers and the Eifel Tower (which could just as easily be Tokyo Tower) and the fashion and modelling and so on are a bit of a hint. But seriously. Every where you go, there's a cafe.

Granted, Melbourne is also known for its cafes (both high quality and the abundance of them), but who would make a Pokemon game about Australia?

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:23 am

"Pokemon: Poison Version"

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:40 am

"Pokemon: They're all trying to kill you now version"

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:37 am

(I have to say, I've seen some towns in Australia with about as many houses and people as in your typical Pokemon town. The ones that exist just so that some people can run a petrol station on one of the billion-mile interstate roads.)

So... is there this perception that Europe (or France specifically?) is obsessed with tipping? Pokemon seems to think so. Every time someone provides a service, you have the option of tipping (and when they don't charge anything to begin with, I'm not sure if that's a tip or just "an optional payment"). I don't really understand this - I figured if anything, it would be Pokemerica that required tipping everywhere.

I love how everyone at the palace has such a low opinion of the noble and basically says "Yeah, a great person might become king, but there's no guarantee their children won't be useless dickheads". I'm waiting for the bit where you get to guillotine him.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:53 am

Koumei wrote:(I have to say, I've seen some towns in Australia with about as many houses and people as in your typical Pokemon town. The ones that exist just so that some people can run a petrol station on one of the billion-mile interstate roads.)

Technically those aren't houses. They are commercial buildings. It's not a town, its a CBD for an invisible dispersed rural community. As a rule the buildings are in order...

1st Building) Pub
2nd Building) The Other Pub
3rb Building) Petrol Station
4th Building) Pub (with Bottle-o)
5th Building) Fish and Chips shop (quality abysmal unless at least 10 buildings exist in CBD)
6th Building) Pub (with motel)
7th Building) General Store (with Bottle-o)
8th Building) Chinese Take Away (fully licensed for alcohol) (this is a big town, getting really metropolitan).
9th Building) Pub (advertises topless barmaids Thursday nights)
10th Building) Abandoned. Freakishly high chance of being abandoned Theater, which is odd, otherwise its an abandoned pub.

vagrant · Post by **vagrant** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:03 pm

I got Y! It's pretty bamf, my friend code is 1435-4184-4782 if anyone wants to try out the online functions and such.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:14 am

I don't know how many hours I spent rushing in and out of the glittering cave to respawn the shadow spots, but I finally caught a Ryhorn, Mawile and Kangaskhan. And others, but they're the ones that matter.

I seriously can't remember the details of the Rock gym, I beat it that fast. I had more trouble from the peons than the leader - with their sun and moon rocks, I actually switched out from Pancham to Simpour and scalded them. That's like TWO turns!

Being nicknamed Milord (I know, I should have been proper and made it Milady or My Lady, but whatever) is hilarious now that I'm curbstomping nobles in the Chateau and taking their money.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:24 am

I don't know how many hours I spent rushing in and out of the glittering cave to respawn the shadow spots, but I finally caught a Ryhorn, Mawile and Kangaskhan. And others, but they're the ones that matter.

My Rhydon is actually one of my higher-end Pokemon now; I considered Kanghaskan as well but I don't have the space for it at the moment. My current team is Doublade (41), Gardevoir (42), Blastoise (48), Rhydon (45), Gloom (45), Farfetch'd (48; HM slave mostly, but can fight in a pinch). Red Jackal (Delphox or whatever) has been benched for now.

Koumei wrote:I seriously can't remember the details of the Rock gym, I beat it that fast. I had more trouble from the peons than the leader - with their sun and moon rocks, I actually switched out from Pancham to Simpour and scalded them. That's like TWO turns!

The Rock Guy gave me the most trouble of any Trainer other than Doc Ock, but that's basically "koed my weakest Pokemon (since that's the one I'd be spending the most effort raising at the time)" and not "the guy has a chance of winning."

Being nicknamed Milord (I know, I should have been proper and made it Milady or My Lady, but whatever)

Again, my character is literally nicknamed "♂" because I was dissatisfied at the inability to play with gender roles, so I'm not one to judge.

So I guess it's time for another progress update:

Not much to say, since most of my time was spent going back, catching, and then raising a Ralts into a Gardevoir.
[*]All of those 4 companion characters railroad you.
[*]The criminal organization takes over a building that makes Poke Balls, and the grateful owner gives you a Master Ball for driving them out. Sound familiar?
[*]Fairy Town actually has distinct clothes (other than blue high tops, green high tops, etc.), make of that what you will.
[*]The 6th Gym has teleporters, through which you need to go through a certain pattern to get to the Leader. Sound familiar again?
[*]All of those 4 companion characters railroad you some more.

That's really where I am so far.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:52 am

I'm still trying to CATCH EM ALL (to some extent. I couldn't be fucked getting Dunsparce or Lunatone, and I still don't have any "hit a bunch of pokes" moves so I can rarely bother with Swarms), and I tend to level different ones up in varying amounts based on the next gym, upcoming evolutions, and the day of the week.

MR BURNS is definitely a keeper, and Char will be once I can megavolve things
MISTER SWORD is part of my team for ever. I look forward to being able to undo giving him Cut (that move should really be Steel and/or "is always supereffective against grass").
Currently also carrying:
the second stage in the Flebebe line (awesome for catching dragons: immune to Dragon Rage, and can lightly chip away at their HP with Magic Leaf)
Pancham (they're cute, and I look forward to the DarkFight evolution, and some more Punch moves for Iron Fist)
Scraggy (from when I was levelling an anti-rock team, but currently also to let Pancham evolve - you need a Dark in your team. Also HM bitch)
And I think the second Fletchling one, because I want to fully evolve it, and maybe dick around with Sky Battles.

Granted, Farfetch'd could be pretty rad, using Swords Dance to power up its choice of False Swipe (for catching crap) or Flying Moves (for knocking crap out). And I often bring out Lucario for some heavy hitting as well.

Once Megavolving comes online (and I actually get Mawilite), I'll get Mawile out, play minigames to fully EV-train her so I don't accidentally get points in Special Attack, then level her and go on a lovely mega-rampage.

Also it occurs to me: Bite is now Not Very Effective against marshmallows and fairyfloss/cotton candy (and Lick is Immune and Average respectively). What the fuck is this?

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:57 am

I spent ages trying to catch a female abra, so I could breed Kadabras as global trade currency to trade for various starters and such.

After male abra like, number 5 I was just trading caught abras for stuff and I was like "screw it" and tried trading a male abra for a female. Inexplicably I got one. I'm trying to hybridise it with a Pancham.

In the mean time I've called myself Evil Tyrant and the group of inexplicable idiots who follow me around everywhere and demand I do random stuff with them call me "Dire Enemy". It is my hope that when I win the pokemon champion trophy I will be permitted to kill one human of my choice as a freebie part of the prize. My choice is that inhuman DANCE FREAK. Oh how I hate him...

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:36 am

Koumei wrote:Also it occurs to me: Bite is now Not Very Effective against marshmallows and fairyfloss/cotton candy (and Lick is Immune and Average respectively). What the fuck is this?

The only explanation that I can think of is because candy is bad for your teeth. And Lick has always had that problem (you couldn't lick marshmallows since the first games) so I can't be bothered to think of one.

PhoneLobster wrote:In the mean time I've called myself Evil Tyrant and the group of inexplicable idiots who follow me around everywhere and demand I do random stuff with them call me "Dire Enemy". It is my hope that when I win the pokemon champion trophy I will be permitted to kill one human of my choice as a freebie part of the prize. My choice is that inhuman DANCE FREAK. Oh how I hate him...

This is totally awesome.

As an aside, I have to wonder why the fuck they've been increasing the number of rival/companion characters in every generation since 2nd:
[*]Gen III had Fire Red/Leaf Green (which kept it at 1, and he was still nameable, and you got to ruin his life), and Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (which had two, neither of which you could name, but both of which you could battle.)
[*]All the Gen IV titles had "annoying opposite gender player character who does nothing but drag out the game" and "guy who you can name and battle so it's harder to find him annoying." And that generation was comprised of the best two games, and three very good ones.
[*]Black/White had two rambling philosophical monologue idiots who you get to battle, and are really annoying (one gets his life ruined at the end of the game, but none of the other annoying characters do) and another bumbling idiot who doesn't monologue but is the source of many monologues.
[*]Black2/White2 had all of the above (although none of them are as prevalent or as bad), plus nameable asshole who you battle.
[*]And now Gen VI has 4(!) annoying railroady companion characters (6 if you count the Professor's assistants, which I'm not doing), none of which can be named, and only one of which can be battled.

Am I not getting something? Are these insanely popular? Are children demanding "we want more annoying companion/rival characters" in the streets?

Here's an open letter:

Dear Game Freak,
Companion/rival characters should be nameable again, and limited to one or less.
Love,
Darth Rabbitt, a.k.a. some random guy who has ranted about your games on a number of occasions.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:47 am

Darth Rabbitt wrote:Am I not getting something? Are these insanely popular? Are children demanding "we want more annoying companion/rival characters" in the streets?

The solution is that everytime they turn up there should be a big button under the dialogue that says "Shutup and FIGHT!" that interrupts WTF they are rambling on like bullshit about, and lets you team rocket them into outer space immediately upon bitch slapping their latest incremental team of pokemon.

That's what it needs.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:07 am

That would be awesome. Also, I too find the dance freak the most annoying. I don't know if it's because he has such a one-tracked mind (not that the others are particularly deep, mind you) or because he insists on talking the most.

Team Flare are of course stupid, but at least they look stylish. Because France.

Also, with those promo videos*, one of the text options is "We can't get enough of [Pokemon name here]!" or similar. As in, it uses the name of the pokemon you brought along to film with. I'm pretty sure that, even with the censor, there could be some great results.

As for breeding Abras, ever since I realised you could breed an Abra with Power Trick (swaps your Attack with that of the enemy) and Ice/Fire/Drain/Thunder Punch, I wanted to breed one with that movepool, level it up and not evolve it. So that it had the shittiest attack stat ever, then swap attack with its foe and punch the shit out of them.

Sadly, in 4Gen I did that and discovered that it didn't swap your actual values, just your stat modifiers. So if you do it with a Bellydrummer, they go from (Big Number)*4 to (Big Number), and you go from (Fuck All) to (Fuck All)*4.

*I admit I might be the only one to play around with them. They're a bit fiddly and annoying and don't really achieve anything.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:06 pm

PhoneLobster wrote:The solution is that everytime they turn up there should be a big button under the dialogue that says "Shutup and FIGHT!" that interrupts WTF they are rambling on like bullshit about, and lets you team rocket them into outer space immediately upon bitch slapping their latest incremental team of pokemon.

Yes. Just yes.

Koumei wrote:Also, I too find the dance freak the most annoying. I don't know if it's because he has such a one-tracked mind (not that the others are particularly deep, mind you) or because he insists on talking the most.

I have to agree. It's a shame, because assembling a dance team of Pokemon is a pretty funny concept (and the only motivation among them that isn't just pulled from a companion from an earlier game). But they manage to fuck that up.

Team Flare are of course stupid, but at least they look stylish. Because France.

Eh, they have stupider hairstyles than Team Galactic, but their uniforms are alright. Team Rocket still wins the style contest for me.

I'm pretty sure that, even with the censor, there could be some great results.

I was able to name a Miltank Nipples, so you can do "We can't get enough of Nipples!" at the very least.

I admit I might be the only one to play around with them. They're a bit fiddly and annoying and don't really achieve anything.

Yeah, I found them dull.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:39 pm

Darth Rabbitt wrote:I was able to name a Miltank Nipples, so you can do "We can't get enough of Nipples!" at the very least.

Pretty sure you could call it "Girly Bits" if you wanted to. Also fairly sure I've used both 'Lady" and "Pants" in various names.

The other day I discovered I cannot include "FU" in a name. Or rather in my case a lower case "fu" or more accurately. "Kungfu" as part of some name incorporating that. Yep...

The silly thing is that even aside from the censor that stops you using some things there is (apparently according to some sites) ANOTHER censor that will take accepted names and display them as defaults to other players if some OTHER list, or maybe live mods, somewhere feels the name of a traded or dueling pokemon is inappropriate.

So why the hell they limit your choices of what YOU see makes no damn sense at all.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:45 pm

I am disappoint to find out that so many of the Mega-Stones are post-game only. Now I get that post-game really just means "after you complete the obligatory story mode and beat the Champion" and is still a huge game, but it's kind of annoying. They pretty much billed Mega-Evolution as the new fancy thing for the generation, and then... made you play the standard game first. And the standard game is, let's face it, the same that's in every Pokemon game because that's how Nintendo rolls.

It would be nice to see a Pokemon game where more of the story line stuff is actually optional, a string of optional side-quests you can do if you wish, and maybe even let you outright ignore (or join) Team _____.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:52 am

PhoneLobster wrote:Pretty sure you could call it "Girly Bits" if you wanted to. Also fairly sure I've used both 'Lady" and "Pants" in various names.

I'll have to try that.

Koumei wrote:It would be nice to see a Pokemon game where more of the story line stuff is actually optional, a string of optional side-quests you can do if you wish, and maybe even let you outright ignore (or join) Team _____.

I really liked that about Red/Blue; most of the plot was just becoming League Champion, and catching the Legendaries was optional, really. You only fought Team Rocket when they got in your way. You couldn't join them, though, which still annoys me (even 7 year old me realized that joining Team Rocket was the most awesome thing you could do.)

Gold/Silver was sort of like this (certainly the villains didn't use Legendaries in any of their plans), but Legendaries were a bit more baked into the plot; and Crystal had the whole "catch Suicine" thing going on. It wasn't bothersome, but in retrospect it was a sign of things to come.

In Gen III-onward every game (barring remakes) has "the villains have a plan to destroy and/or remake the world involving the version's cover Legendary."

Wiseman · Post by **Wiseman** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:22 am

Just got to the final battle with the evil team. Apparently the villians plan is to unleash a superweapon that will kill everyone in the world but his followers.

For pokemon, that's actually pretty hardcore.