President Obama's Healthcare Speech

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:15 pm

PL, which nation has the most drive-thrus? Which nation had them first?

-Crissa

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:20 pm

I've lied about something? What the hell?

Then we go onto more traumatic than thou? What the heck?

Why was any of that posted? I was merely answering an assertion that I was well-to-do. I'm not, nor have I been. Pretty solid middle class, but willing to get help when I needed it. What's wrong with that? Why the whole diatribe?

-Crissa

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:41 pm

Because Count only cares about his own pity parties and only ever has.

He started on the pity party before he accused you of lying, that was his whole fucking post about how he is diseased and meanly put upon by everyone he's even met.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:20 pm

Crissa wrote:PL, which nation has the most drive-thrus? Which nation had them first?

You can't just rest (breathing heavily from limited exertion) on your (collectively fat) laurels obsessing over past triumphs (in the field of gross consumption).

We out fatted your nation fair and square (or sort of giant flabby pear shaped) and the (collectively fat) laurels are now ours.

IF we did it with less drive-thrus (questionable) and no access to Baconnaise that just makes us more hard core (or wobbly fatty high cholesterol cored).

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:52 pm

To be fair to the United States, some areas of the country IIRC are much fatter than others.

For example, in the Northeast people there aren't overweight compared to other areas of the country, or even the rest of the world. In the Deep South is where people tend to be overweight. Like, waaaaay overweight. This plays havoc with averages.

Bright Green: 19-22% obese
Olive Green: 22-25% obese
Yellow: 25-28% obese
Orange: 28-31% obese
Red: 31-34% obese

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:12 am

Lago PARANOIA wrote:To be fair to the United States, some areas of the country IIRC are much fatter than others.

You think that doesn't happen here?

Kurri Kurri is a smallish regional town. It has like 5+ Pubs, 7+ fast food stores (I mean there are even two hot chips type shops next door to each other that have both had thriving business for the last several decades), 5+ Pie shops (4 in the same small stretch of street), and like 3+ RSL style "clubs". And I'm sure I'm forgetting SOMETHING. We are talking in a place that would pass as a mere suburb anywhere else.

And yeah. People around here certainly look a lot fatter than the people in Sydney.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:20 am

I used to have very little empathy for those people who opted to eat fast food over buying ingredients at the grocery store. Then I learned that there are actually parts of the country where people don't have access to grocery stores. That just shocked me.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:02 am

Kurri has two supermarkets. Both small and crap. They have crappy food in general and often stock really really suspect meat products.

And one of the two actually gives me migrane headaches All I have to do is walk into the place and within 2 minutes I'm getting blind spots and feeling tingling sensations, even a cursory shop and I leave with a splitting headache and other nasty symptoms. It is the only supermarket, or place I know of at all, that does that to me, but it does it EVERY TIME.

Ideally I travel at least as far as the fringes of Newcastle to shop.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:36 pm

PhoneLobster wrote:And one of the two actually gives me migrane headaches All I have to do is walk into the place and within 2 minutes I'm getting blind spots and feeling tingling sensations, even a cursory shop and I leave with a splitting headache and other nasty symptoms. It is the only supermarket, or place I know of at all, that does that to me, but it does it EVERY TIME.

Bad florescent lighting?

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:07 pm

Chemicals used in buildings, decorating as well as cleaning can resulting in triggers.

Which is why some people get really totally weird about potential 'chemicals' in things, even if what they're worried about isn't actually better or worse than what they're replacing it with.

Science is a waste of time to some people.

-Crissa

NativeJovian · Post by **NativeJovian** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:34 am

Lago PARANOIA wrote:

Bright Green: 19-22% obese
Olive Green: 22-25% obese
Yellow: 25-28% obese
Orange: 28-31% obese
Red: 31-34% obese

Fuck yeah Florida, buckin' the regional trend.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:08 pm

NativeJovian wrote:Fuck yeah Florida, buckin' the regional trend.

Not really. Florida isn't a part of the "South." It is more a part of the North East in really odd and bizarre ways. North Florida is more Southern but once you get to the South you really are in the North.

NativeJovian · Post by **NativeJovian** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:04 pm

I know. That's what I was pointing out. The region being "the southeastern United States" and the trend being "Southern-ness".

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:15 pm

NativeJovian wrote:I know. That's what I was pointing out. The region being "the southeastern United States" and the trend being "Southern-ness".

I'd assume it's because of the North/South divide. Northern Florida has the native southerners in dominance, whereas the southern end has a much higher population of non-southerners, due to it being a nice spot for immigration and attracting a lot of northerners who move down there because you can take a long nap one afternoon and miss winter.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:57 pm

I really can't blame the Deep South, though, because Southern cooking kicks your little ass and puts you in a trash bag. I can't tell you how many goddamn times I have had blackened catfish with baked salmon croquettes with a side of delicious roasted corn dripping with butter and cayenne pepper and lime salt.

Sure beats eating baked chicken. In... in a pan. With... with microwaved potato wedges. With have salad dressing dripped on them. With a can of chowder.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:54 pm

I love Southern Cooking, but on the other hand, I also love good Cuban cooking. The ropa vieja, the picadillo, black beans and yellow rice, fried plantains, and some nice Cuban-Style Flan. The next morning you wake up to a grande con leche and some sliced buttered and toasted fresh Cuban bread.

That's the wonder of good Key West cooking.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:16 am

Yeah. If only those ex-pats would give up their dreams of stealing back their plantations and monopolies.

-Crissa

Meikle641 · Post by **Meikle641** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:24 am

Well, hopefully they'll die off in another couple decades. Or the US will finally stop that stupid embargo. Whatever, not like it affects Canada all that much, but this has gone on waaaay too long.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:41 am

tzor wrote:Not really. Florida isn't a part of the "South." It is more a part of the North East in really odd and bizarre ways. North Florida is more Southern but once you get to the South you really are in the North.

Yeah, well, North Carolina isn't really part of the "south" either, at least not where I'm sitting.

Anyway, well said!

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:58 pm

Crissa wrote:Yeah. If only those ex-pats would give up their dreams of stealing back their plantations and monopolies.

Actually it's more like their townhouses and urban residences.

In this first wave, those who left were Cuba’s elite.

“Those who wait” characterizes those first refugeesthat came imagining that exile would be temporary,waiting for the inevitable American reaction and helpto overthrow Cuba’s new government.

...

“Those who escape” constituted the second phasethat was set on by the growing political turmoil whenthe Catholic church was silenced after denouncingthe communist direction the revolution was taking(cf. Alfonso 1984); the electoral system collapsedwhen the jubilant crowds chanted around Castro“¿Elecciones para qué?” (“What do we need elections for?”); and Castro announced that he had alwaysbeen a Marxist-Leninist and would be so until theday he died (cf. Thomas 1977). The exodus doubled.As Amaro and Portes noted, the inverse relationshipbetween date of emigration and social class in Cubabegan to show. Still largely a middle-class exodus,now it was more middle than upper: middle mer-chants and middle management, landlords, mid-dle-level professionals, and a considerable number ofskilled unionized workers, who wanted to escape anintolerable new order.

...

With this phase of the migration, the exodus of theupper and upper-middle classes largely came to anend. This wave of immigration was largely workingclass and “petite bourgeoisie”: employees, indepen-dent craftsmen, small merchants, skilled andsemi-skilled workers. Amaro and Portes judged(1972, p. 13) that over time the political exile in-creasingly became an economic exile as “those whosearch” searched for greater economic opportunitiesthan were provided in a socialist society that institut-ed a new ethic of sacrificing individual consumptionto achieve collective goals.

Remember if you are so insistent that Cuban refugees can’t just go back to the way it was before; the same argument applies to all refugees over long periods of time, including the Palestinians. (Sorry, I know you have been waiting in shitty camps, because your Arab neighbors treat you like dogs and won’t let you live with them in dignity, but someone else lives in your homes and towns and you ain’t ever going back there again.)

ckafrica · Post by **ckafrica** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:23 pm

Well if you insist in reparations Tzor than the US should be coughing up too

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:41 pm

In Palestine, these people were kicked out of their land (some very recently) by troops after a minority approved a two-state solution. One of those states continued to expand (the minority), despite the agreements creating it. That's why we call it 'The occupied territories'.

In Cuba, a popular uprising changed the form of government. The ex-pats totally had a chance to stay around an participate in the new government, taking a fair share of the proceeds of the nation, and providing services. They opted out. They even failed to re-invade after given equal material.

And if you note, only the rich are repatriated in US policy. We're not talking some family's home or business or field; we're talking plantations and hotels and slave laborers.

-Crissa

Absentminded_Wizard · Post by **Absentminded_Wizard** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:18 am

Ummm, the "occupied territories" were parts of three Arab countries, not a separate Palestinian state.

Wikipedia wrote:The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories captured by Israel from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria during the Six-Day War of 1967, consisting of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights, and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:43 pm

ckafrica wrote:Well if you insist in reparations Tzor than the US should be coughing up too

Actually I don't.