Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.

Laertes · Post by **Laertes** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:55 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:Wait wait wait.

You mean there's another person on the Den who'll get my Transmet references?

Dean was right, it's Forever-Christmas.

Spider Jerusalem wrote:In Soul Foulness, on the Nazareth Road, they give thanks for the day when the Beatified Mostyn Gorbals pissed down the Foulness vat-grown Messiah's throat to save his life when his heart caught fire. December 25th is Drink-My-Urine Day in South Foulness. Which is why no one ever goes there.

The denizens of South Foulness now recognise each of their neighbour's urine by its distinctive tang and pressure.

My name is Spider Jerusalem, and I fucking hate Forever-Christmas.

On the note of GotG and Marvel/DC stuff- basically, you're just not a fan of Supers. Which is what Marvel and DC "specialize" in. I mean, all the comics you mention were DC titles under their Vertigo imprint, but they're very different things from Supers titles.

It's definitely a very specific thing, and it has it's own tropes and all that. And really, certain specific authors and runs aside, Supers comics aren't really known for the overall quality of their writing so much as they're known for their spectacles. I think that's changing somewhat, but it'll be a bit before the movies catch up to it.

I don't have any problem with people who like supers, but yeah, it's not for me.

Thinking about it a little more, I think my problem with GotG started when Quill is first introduced as an adult: his very first action is to dance around some ruins, kicking small animals for no reason except his own amusement. When someone has a literal Puppy Kicking Moment in the first scene that they're introduced, then the director had better be aware that they are setting them up as a villain. It took me a while to realise that not only was I supposed to identify with Quill, but I was supposed to like him. Sadly, with the exception of some very cool supporting characters, the film went downhill from there.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:19 pm

Occluded Sun wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:So of course humans make themselves up as casti and go out to night clubs. And the human character married to a young, more liberal minded casti did this shit, to "better understand his culture."

Fucking really? Sigh.
That sounds like a very plausible thing for people to do. Not in good taste, or demonstrating insight, but there's never been a lack of people willing to do stupid tasteless things at a moment's notice.

Yep, that's the part that actually makes me most... annoyed by it. That people would totally do that shit.

Virgil wrote:Dude, I love Transmetropolitan. I continue to make passing references to it in the background of my Shadowrun games (stuff like Durden Demolitions junk yard being a location for a Johnson meet)

My character's mythic blood spell in Laertes' Ars Magica game is inspired by the Bowel Disruptor, and I once played Spider in a werewolf game, complete with a fetish that replicated the Disruptor (with settings even!) and Channon as a bodyguard.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:08 am

Laertes wrote:When someone has a literal Puppy Kicking Moment in the first scene that they're introduced, then the director had better be aware that they are setting them up as a villain.

I don't know whether to be impressed or disturbed that you can relate to vicious lizard-rats as puppies.

TOZ · Post by **TOZ** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:12 am

Laertes wrote:Thinking about it a little more, I think my problem with GotG started when Quill is first introduced as an adult: his very first action is to dance around some ruins, kicking small animals for no reason except his own amusement.

No reason? How about 'they are trying to bite my face off'? Those suckers were vicious.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:00 am

Also seen elsewhere in the movie, so he's evidently familiar with the type.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:19 am

Laertes wrote:I think my problem with GotG started when Quill is first introduced as an adult: his very first action is to dance around some ruins, kicking small animals for no reason except his own amusement.

Having just seen the movie: Those animals were very clearly attacking him. One of them jumps straight at his face before he grabs it, teeth bared. It wasn't subtle and I don't know how you missed it.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:38 pm

Possibly making out.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:43 pm

Michael Bay is The Antichrist: A Review of 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'

The next move you should be making is writing a list of friends who can’t wait to see this movie – Or worse, already did and actually liked it. – and then systematically removing them from your life. Change your name if you have to.

RufusCorvus · Post by **RufusCorvus** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:58 pm

angelfromanotherpin wrote:Michael Bay is The Antichrist: A Review of 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'

The next move you should be making is writing a list of friends who can’t wait to see this movie – Or worse, already did and actually liked it. – and then systematically removing them from your life. Change your name if you have to.

That review is accurate.

Every half-decent moment was frankensteined from the original movie while the plot was exactly the same as Amazing Spider-Man with everything held together by steaming glops of horseshit.

erik · Post by **erik** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:34 pm

I just watched Brave. It, and especially the ending, were unbearable.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:52 pm

Pun intended?

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:12 am

Oh yes. Very intended. I did think it was a rather flat movie tho. It never stirred anything up for me.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:17 am

erik wrote:I just watched Brave. It, and especially the ending, were unbearable.

I enjoyed it, but I could see why someone might not. Even for me the whole "ok, she's being a bit unreasonable, but your mom really is kind of right" thing was really cloying to me, and for someone whose parents really are draconian fuckwits... I'd have preferred it if it had ended with Merida being completely in the right.

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:44 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:I'd have preferred it if it had ended with Merida being completely in the right.

Because that would be fantasy fulfilled. In reality, usually neither parents nor their children are completely in the right.

I rather preferred both Merida and Elinor learning that neither's accomplishments were as easy as they made them look and the mutual respect which resulted. Isn't that the relationship we'd ideally like to reach with parents?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:05 pm

Yeah, I'm not saying it was bad (and honestly had forgotten that there was more to the mother's side of things than "you have to marry one of these pricks because I said so"). It was a good movie for what it was.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:31 pm

I wish they'd dropped the triplets and had the princes be something more than a bunch of joke characters.

Maybe add in another thirty minutes or so to let them get some characterization/do stuff. Movie was only an hour and a half long, it wouldn't have stretched it too long.

I guess one problem is the trailers did very little to let you know Merida's mother is just as prominent as she is. Only in bear form.

tussock · Post by **tussock** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:05 pm

I wish they'd dropped the triplets and had the princes be something more than a bunch of joke characters.

It's a kids movie. The younger ones need something like the 3boys happening every time it gets at all slow to stop them getting bored. They let Merinda be more restrained by taking all that into otherwise background characters. They even help, which is nice for the audience members they're intended for.

Though the bear takes on that role when there's too long of a gap between 3boys scenes. What's important is that Marinda never has to. She's the protagonist. Which is to say, the 3boys aren't there for you.

The princes, however, are awesome. The father/son contrasts are good work, and they're suitably awkward teenagers with obvious themes of stepping out of the parental shadow. What else can you do with so many characters in 90 minutes? Background stories? That's old man talk, which the old men did.

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:51 pm

I confess that my complaint was formed from a desire to make a bear pun.

I would rate the movie a C. Not great, not horrible. Not anything I felt like rewatching. That's pretty low marks for a Pixar flick tho.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:22 pm

Someone watched 'God's Not Dead' so you don't have to

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:15 am

angelfromanotherpin wrote:Someone watched 'God's Not Dead' so you don't have to

Not sure if you're saying the review totally lost you or that the film definitely lived up to expectations.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:31 am

God damnit. Watching the second Sin City movie was like watching the second Matrix movie. A truly monumental disappointment.

As far as the above conversation goes: I thought Brave was weird. It was an hour and a half long but only felt like 45 minutes.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:54 am

Surgo wrote:God damnit. Watching the second Sin City movie was like watching the second Matrix movie. A truly monumental disappointment.

I didn't watch the second Sin City movie when they said that Miller was going to have more creative control over the film. Miller did some amazing comics writing, but that is all past tense. The fact is that Frank Miller has been on a blatant slide into insanity since, what? 1998? His comics work in the 2000s has ranged from bad to laughably bad. DK2 and The Fucking Batman shouldn't be things on anyone's resume.

People basically shouldn't let him have creative control over anything anymore. It's not that he's apparently an IRL colossal asshole and racist douchebag, it's that he hasn't shown that he still has any creative talent since Clinton was president. The longer he spends not getting on the iceflow, the harder it will be to convince younger people that he was ever good.

-Username17

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:01 pm

That makes so much sense. Wikipedia says he wrote two new stories for this movie, and they were the ones that completely sucked and didn't make any sense at all.

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:14 pm

Hell, I have a hard enough time convincing myself he was ever any good some days, and I'm just barely old enough that I should still have some nostalgia goggles. Miller didn't fly off the rails trying new things so much as he's amped up his shtick to unbearable levels and that can make it hard to mentally hedge off the truly horrendous shit from the work he did back in the day. The "I'm the goddamn Batman" incident deservedly takes the most heat from fans since it's taking a steaming turd on a central relationship right from the git-go, but I think the infamous "sweet chunks" line may be even better evidence of how far he has climbed up his own asshole even if it is obviously less meme worthy. After all, doubling down on "Batman is a sociopath" mostly proves that Miller isn't an idea man anymore whereas "sweet chunks" shows that you can't even trust him to handle a "detective walks into a bar looking for info" transition without embarrassing himself.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:10 am

This is more a general annoyance than something with a specific target, but screw overly direct romanization of Japanese. Now, I get that people want to keep spellings like the actual names, and things don't match up perfectly so there can be multiple equally valid spellings.

No, what pisses me off is when people are romanizing a specific reference to something originally from a language using the Latin alphabet and fuck it up. The correct romanization is obviously whatever it was in the original language! Specifically pissing me off is a new fan translation calling itself Haiyore! Nyaruko-san. The -ko is a feminine suffix, and the rest is supposed to be a shortened form of Nyarlathotep, which you may notice is not a name that contains a u.