MGuy wrote:So you are going to keep up that "stupid question" line because... You couldn't come up with an answer?
Your question was
MGuy wrote:What would an offensive and racist depiction of a caucasian look like to you Prak?
So, first of all, the question was an almost complete non sequitor. What the fuck did it even have to do with the topic of whether Editorial Cartoonists should refrain from putting Mohammad on the covers of their magazines?
Second of all, I could and did answer. I thought a bit hastily, perhaps, because the most visible example of cultural appropriation is shitty white kids wearing war bonnets at Coachella. But that wasn't my sole answer, you could conceivably depict caucasians as "bland" or "neutral baseline."
But third of all, it's a fucking nonsense question, at least in a western context, because more stereotypes are bullshit and based on othering rhetoric. So, fuck, it could be anything. We could be offensively and racistly stereotyped as lazy dumbasses if we were a minority. But most stereotypes of us that exist center on manifest destiny, genocide, and other shit of the sort.
Which, I should say as an aid to Kaelik, who willfully misinterprets every fucking thing I say to further his ad hominems, is not to say that other genocide and land grabbing are uniquely caucasian things.
So, you want an answer to the question? It could be fucking anything if caucasians were a minority/oppressed people. Because racist stereotypes don't have to have any basis in fact or sense.
TiaC wrote:Prak wrote:@Leress: Oh, I missed that. My point was more that reducing black people to simply a skin color is, well, very reductionist, and pretty ignorant, and the idea that black are "just dark skinned" would probably be offensive to a lot of black people. Because there's a lot more than that, and skin color varies a lot, and there's even a pretty big problem within the black community of prejudice over the tone of one's skin, intertwined to some extent with "passing privilege" stuff.
A political cartoon, admittedly, is going to rely mostly on skin color, and I'm not saying that they should have everyone be the same color, I'm saying that even limiting the discussion to physical characteristics there is more to being black than "just having dark skin."
Goddamn, you missed the entire context of the discussion that line came from. Giving someone dark skin is sufficient to indicate they are black in a simplified drawing. However, the fact that they have dark skin isn't offensive. This was in contrast to a feather headdress, which is sufficient to indicate that the wearer is a Native American, but is also offensive to many people. Of course, if you are not simplifying your depiction so much, then there are more differences that you can show.
So, when I said "you can draw black people by just giving them darker skin" I mean that the skin color is enough to make them recognizably black.
Looking back, yeah, I over fucking reacted/thought. I get what you meant. Sorry.
Leress wrote:So Prak are you not going to answer my question?
Oh jesus fucking christ why are the people on this site such fucking tools?
To answer your PRECISE QUESTION a black person in an editorial cartoon should be depicted with some level of dark skin, maybe an acknowledgement of different facial structure, and probably hair that acknowledges the styling consequences of the structural and textural differences of black hair.
There, I've answered your VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION. If you want to say some shit about how I haven't still, I kindly invite you to suck a giant barrel of cocks.