The Worth of a Race

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:04 am

I just discovered something in the DMG that might be worth mentioning, didn't find a thread that fit this information, so I made a new one;

A LA+0 race in D&D 3.5e is worth exactly 14,900 gp.

Source: Belt of Dwarvenkind

sake · Post by **sake** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:03 am

So what you're saying is...

I should expect to have to pay at least over 15k gold for a *decent* dwarven sex slave? Now is that their Waterdeep, Sharn, or Sigil market price? Good info to know either way.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:13 am

So, can I play a mule-ish character with no racial abilities and get an extra 14,900g?

Endovior · Post by **Endovior** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:39 pm

That... that doesn't even...

Yeah, no. Just... no.

Of the three posts in the thread so far, each is wrong.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:25 am

Prak_Anima wrote:So, can I play a mule-ish character with no racial abilities and get an extra 14,900g?

Yes. No. I don't know.

sake wrote:So what you're saying is...

I should expect to have to pay at least over 15k gold for a *decent* dwarven sex slave? Now is that their Waterdeep, Sharn, or Sigil market price? Good info to know either way.

You could have a elf wearing the belt. Maybe they sprout a beard, but of utmost importance... they're now a dwelf.

Look, all I'm saying is there's definitely a RAW correlation between racial abilities and cash. I wonder how the designers came to that specific amount of GP worth for the better parts of a dwarf race (not even a -2 CHA?)
Imagine if you could don a belt that makes you half dragon or half fiend, or stranger.

ishy · Post by **ishy** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:25 pm

But if you are a dwarf wearing it, who uses use magic device to be a human so you do gain the non-dwarf bonusses, you'll be the dwarfiest dwarf to be dwarfed.

Red Archon · Post by **Red Archon** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:32 pm

sigma999 wrote: Imagine if you could don a belt that makes you half dragon or half fiend, or stranger.

What's the LA for strangers?

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 pm

Red Archon wrote:
sigma999 wrote: Imagine if you could don a belt that makes you half dragon or half fiend, or stranger.
What's the LA for strangers?

Given that stranger used as an adjective shortcut for the phrase "something even more strange", I'd say the LA varies.

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PoliteNewb · Post by **PoliteNewb** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:29 pm

ishy wrote:But if you are a dwarf wearing it, who uses use magic device to be a human so you do gain the non-dwarf bonusses, you'll be the dwarfiest dwarf to be dwarfed.

Nope. Dwarf who takes the Stoneblessed PrC AND all 3 levels of Dwarven Paragon, and wears a belt of dwarvenkind. 1000% Dwarfy.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:25 am

But how did the designers decide the belt costs 14.9k gold?
How do you price Stonecunning? Is it worth a feat?

ishy · Post by **ishy** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:32 pm

They actually created magic items without any 'design guide'.
Since they only realised when making the magic item compendium that something like that could actually be fucking helpful.
See: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20070316a