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You found one way in which 4e is arguably broken that involves giving one monster from the monster manual a bow and having it fly around and shoot parties that can't fight back. The reason that 4e is broken isn't because you're giving a flying monster a bow and having it attack parties that can't f...

2) You are contradicting yourself. First you say, "only allow skills that fit the task" then you follow with "unless the explanation is really clever." No, I'm not. For somebody picking at semantics I find it funny you don't understand the concept of "exceptional". If ...

He sure does love his Bizarro logic. Because having the game break right in half over simple shit like 'dumbfuck MOB with bow' is somehow a better deal than having the broken stuff be fairly obscure and complex, greatly reducing the chances it will come up by accident. It is better, though, because...

Absolutely. Let's compare it to heart surgery. In 3e, botching the surgery means nicking the aorta, not stitching an incision properly, or having a rejected transplant. In 4e, the surgeon stabs the patient in the heart. You found one way in which 4e is arguably broken that involves giving one monst...

They can't counter a flying monster with a bow . Fail. A flying monster with a bow is imbalanced. Do you realize how incredibly retarded that makes the entire system? Again, 3e might be more broken, but it generally takes work to break it. 4e is broken by a flying monster with a bow. So 4th Edition...

a) It is not in any way formulaic, because no two people in the universe even agree on what a skill challenge actually is. People don't even use skill challenges for the same types of things, much less follow the same rules for a given situation. Valid. In my experiences, people either run them poo...

If you say that the DM should "use their brain" or "use common sense" or "fudge things a bit" or any other thing that means exactly the same thing as "Not use the rules as printed" as some sort of excuse for why a problem doesn't exist, then YES you are using...

Bullshit. The PCs are allowed to go up against unwinnable fights. What do they do? Beat a hasty retreat and come up with a plan to defeat the enemy. If the PCs can run away and formulate a plan to win, it's not an unwinnable fight, and this argument crumbles because a party could conceivably counte...

Because it didn't warrant a response. It didn't warrant a response from you because my point keeps flying over your head. If a hypothetical situation occurs where a fight is unwinnable by PCs, a DM should simply not introduce it. Period. It's bad DMing practice, and any non-shitty DM will know this...

If you can ride a Riding Horse and have it take a double move to move 20 spaces, then 65% of the enemies for levels 1-10 cannot fight you back. You have to split actions with your mount, so on a turn where you double move, you can't do anything else. Can you break down that table a bit more? It see...

In the words of Roy: hurk hurk durk hurk. You're making yourself look bad by quoting him, but it's good to know that you have nothing to say back to this. Stop. Right there. In a well-designed system, the PCs would have a chance of winning against a bow-wielding deathlord. They could, I don't know,...

Oberoni: the game isn't broken because the DM shouldn't let it be broken! So you're saying that I'm committing the Oberoni fallacy because I think the DM should use their brain? Interesting. You are telling me that I can't have flying humanoids with bows in my game because the PCs can't stop them. ...

In one argument, you said that people should be "roleplaying their characters" instead of using the best tactics . Then, in response to someone's complaints about 4e's lack of support for non-combat, non-dungeon challenges, you basically said that "D&D has always been a combat-ce...

Seriously? You just told me not to use the monster's abilities against the PCs. That's...that's sad. Instead, be saddened by your own idea that the DM -> Player relationship is adversarial and that the DM should give the Deathlord a powerful ranged weapon and allow it to fly around in an open field...

Then put him on a skeletal steed, you tool. Okay. Steeds have a movement of 10. Assuming the dimensions of the area allow him to retreat on horseback continually, a melee PC with a speed of 5 can still catch up by move action -> move and then standard action -> charge if within 10. If they're not w...

I've been out, and I have some catching up to do in responding to certain folks. Absentminded Wizard: I think you mistook my arguments earlier and I'll get to that. Frank: I'll post some more skill challenge stuff and try to be more concise, but you probably aren't going to like what I have to say. ...

I realize now why Roy has been ignored by half of this board. He applies Sirlin inappropriately, recites internet memes as though it's a substitute for wit in every post, and just plain doesn't get RPGs.

Roy: As I'm sure has been said to you quite a bit, welcome to the ignore list.

On a different subject, the reason why sameness = win is because everyone is about the same anyways . And since there's no meaningful difference between abilities, you just want your numbers as high as possible. And the way to do that is via hyperspecialization. Typically something like one Numbers...

That answer is bullshit. If the DM has to write a new rule, the old rule is problematic. Period. If you make that argument you are automatically wrong. Complaints like "the game totally breaks at level 30" with proof is a legitimate gripe. If it's at the point where the DM has to bend ove...

How is neutering a closet troll being a shitty player? Especially if you're focued on being a ranged fighter? Are you just supposed to fight a monster on its terms because the DM says so? Are we not allowed to try and lure these creatures out of the keep so we can arrow-enema them in the courtyard?...

More handwaving bullshit. Are you now railroading the PCs into not always fighting in the open? Because if you are, it's still proving me right via Oberoni. And if you aren't, they just don't do that. Are you even aware of what handwaving means? I didn't handwave anything. You just like repeating i...

So not letting yourself be railroaded is being a dick? Because chances are, there's more than one thing going wrong at once, so you can just focus on the things that don't involve going inside. And the rest? Well someone else can deal with it. Or not. It's not as if anything bad will happen to the ...

Nope. There you actually not only have ranged attacks, but have mobility as well. So yes, it's very different. Even if an enemy did start a thousand feet away, that's just a Dimension Door away from fixing. And then they could totally Dimension Door themselves. Or something. The rest of that is a m...

If players don't stack Aid Anothers on a Skill Challenge... then what are they doing if they can't contribute, besides tanking the Challenge for the rest of the party? A fundamental assumption of 4e skills (and I like it) is... "As an adventurer, you have a basic level of competence in every s...

There was a thread earlier where someone listed the number of monsters in the monsters that had ranged capability. I remember it being very low. Archer Rangers don't automatically win every encounter because there are some creatures that have ok ranged attacks. However, most monsters do not. And mo...