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Is the exact sentence. However, it could still be that. But also, jumped in users already have a way to calculate their Reaction (use Intuition), so... yeah.Drones use their Response in lieu of their Reaction.
FrankTrollman wrote:Drones use Pilot + Autosoft for most tasks. For actually piloting themselves around, they use Response + Pilot.
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Who do I believe!?EotM, Matrix Dice Pools at a Glance wrote:Drone Self Piloting: Pilot + Maneuver Autosoft + Handling
Honestly? While a complete rewrite of the vehicle rules, including the drone rules is probably desirable, it's also kind of a lot of work. If no one really wants to be "The Rigger" it's not in high demand. There are plenty of weirdnesses, that start with sport cars ramming for more damage than vehicular lasers and rail guns, and continue straight through to drones costing less than the machine guns that they come with.Lokathor wrote:A drone does have a Device rating though, which gives it a Response value indirectly.
If, say, a young new GM was slowly introducing his players to his heavily houseruled version of SR4, and he had not yet put much stock in drones or vehicles and thus was given the chance to write that entire segment of the game essentially from scratch... what would you suggest that he do?
It's just a Matrix Stealth check, so it wouldn't be able to hide you while you were attacking, no. But you can use it to hide networks that you aren't even attached to, which has some pretty exciting possibilities.Lokathor wrote:Question: Can the Cloak program keep a network hidden even while it's using Attack Programs? or is it basically intended for use on allies that can't Matrix Stealth on their own?
Two questions then (sorry, I'm still wrapping my head around your rules; although compared to 98% of what's in the equivalent SR4 materials, these are fantastic).FrankTrollman wrote:Agents don't get separate actions. To the extent that they exist, they are restricted to pilot programs and firewall extensions.
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Yes. That is how you set up passive IC. Of course, the best thing for passive IC to do is usually to alert a Hacker, but if you wanted to have your IC duke it out with someone as long as they were camping in your node, you could do that. They would be able to jack out, breaking the connection and stopping your IC though (like as happens in the books).JesterZero wrote: 1. It seems like under certain circumstances a firewall program DOES get a separate action. Now, that action is limited to running programs with a range of Connection, NOT being able to initiate a connection, and no more than 1 IP per round. (I'm getting that from the description of Firewall Programs in the section n Programs and Complex Forms). But conceivably, it could have instructions along the lines of "run the Crash program on anything that pokes it's nose inside our network that isn't me."
Technomancers are incredibly scary in pure matrix duels for that exact reason. But they have weaknesses too. Since they draw their power from the matrix ambiently rather than having specific computers that they are running processes on, they are susceptible to jamming. Turn on some straight noise and it just lowers the hacker's effective range, but it reduces the actual Resonance of Technomancers and Sprites.2. With the abilities of agents being so sharply curtailed, doesn't this mean that any fight between a Hacker and a Technomancer is always going to potentially favor the Technomancer? The Technomancer has the ability to roll with a posse. Granted, she can't really roll that deep (only 1 unregistered sprite at a time), but that's still 2-on-1.
Yes, there are a lot of different ways to do things. If I were to write the SR5 mechanics on the subject, I'd go even farther and have people select hacking schticks similarly to how magicians select spells. But the basic idea was to go away from the SR4 by-the-book method where every security measure had exactly one program you needed to run to deal with it and thus every single player had to know every single program (except for a few redundant attack programs like Blackout/Blackhammer).3. It seems to me that the rules portrayed here are deliberately redundant. I mean that in a good way; they feel like using a computer (and there's always like 3-7 ways to do the same thing on a computer). For example, if Tracy Technomancer wants to open a maglock, she can: run Jedi Trick, run Backdoor then Master Control, or run Validation. If she didn't have those complex forms, she could try to Thread Jedi Trick or Backdoor/Master Control (but not Validation). Conceivably, there's probably other options as well, since you could make the case that in the event of a power failure or malfunction, the lock would default to an unlocked state, and then proceed to damage/crash the sucker.
Looks like it.Am I starting to get it?
Normally an arrow display is sent as a request to the target's display link to how an arrow. However, if you wanted to, you could project something like that directly into your brain. And so could anyone else.Surgo wrote:I feel like a real moron asking this question, but I'm not quite sure -- do the display of Arrows depend on having something capable of displaying them, like a sim module or AR gloves or whatever, or are they beamed directly into the brain with no need for any of that (and that's why there are those matrix deprivation tanks)? I know in the core SR4 book it's the former, but the directly-to-the-brain and brain-text parts of the rules make me unsure if it's changed in the Ends.
P.C. Hodgell wrote:That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.
shadzar wrote:i think the apostrophe is an outdated idea such as is hyphenation.
P.C. Hodgell wrote:That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.
shadzar wrote:i think the apostrophe is an outdated idea such as is hyphenation.
Netcat attempts to eliminate the Rigger’s Access ID from the drone’s accounts list. Unfortunately, the clever Rigger has programmed the drone not to accept Admin account deletions. Netcat and the Rigger are at a stalemate.
Nah, you just reprogram it to accept admin account deletions. Clearly Netcat just forgot to say "Simon says".cthulhu wrote:How the shadowrun devs thinks the matrix works
Netcat attempts to eliminate the Rigger’s Access ID from the drone’s accounts list. Unfortunately, the clever Rigger has programmed the drone not to accept Admin account deletions. Netcat and the Rigger are at a stalemate.
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No idea where else to post that, but it's absolutely hilarious that you can make changes you cannot undo!
Where is that from?cthulhu wrote:How the shadowrun devs thinks the matrix works
Netcat attempts to eliminate the Rigger’s Access ID from the drone’s accounts list. Unfortunately, the clever Rigger has programmed the drone not to accept Admin account deletions. Netcat and the Rigger are at a stalemate.
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No idea where else to post that, but it's absolutely hilarious that you can make changes you cannot undo!
