If it were me I'd just stop responding to his thread(s) in response. I'm taking you at your word and going with the idea that you don't see any value in what he's posting. Ignoring it really isn't a big deal, I'd think, if I believed he were circling the drain to nowhere. What Orion seems to be working toward is a form of analysis and hasn't gotten to a point where I think there's anything worth saying X or Y is wrong. It may just be that I don't understand what his end game looks like yet but if I thought nothing of value was being said it would join the other threads that I simply don't post in.PhoneLobster wrote:You tell me how I should respond to "Hey I'm looking for validation to not engage this person based on their identity alone" and then this thread, and a name banning, and his new "I'm angry at you because you never said that thing you totally said" bullshit.MGuy wrote:If PL were to listen to me I'd suggest he abstain from Orion's project(s) / posts going forward if he feels that the person is either not seeking criticism or has personally slighted him.
I was I think super polite to Orion for too long on this topic considering the shit he pulled. I should have torn him a new one for the insulting "should I engage" bullshit alone. I should have utterly savaged him for the insult that is this very thread the moment it appeared. But he just got to a point a little after that I think its entirely fair to let go of the restraint.
However as justified as I feel I am with being aggressive in response to his stupid bullshit, I don't think trying to remember that Orion talked nonsense and really, REALLY cocked up basic engagement with criticism and therefore ignoring him forever is particularly helpful as a forward looking decision for anyone. I also don't think it's wrong to respond in the short term to his total insulting mishandling of criticism with at least some level of hostility.
The alternative is what? That the posters on here that are most prone to producing nonsense and least capable of dealing with criticism of it should what? Get some sort of special protection free pass forever?
Maybe the problem is that we have inadvertently given people too many tools to do that with already. Maybe this is a very good example of exactly the mechanisms by which it is a problem.
On the other hand if you think that there is something somewhere in what he's saying, you think you know how to say it better, 'and' you are concerned that people who are following what he's saying will be led astray then I guess I'd say you should make your own thread and do it the right way. You have convinced me of things before so if you are ahead of the game then I mean... go ahead and be a pioneer.
Assuming that I'd gotten to the point where I felt personally slighted AND felt the poster wasn't here for criticism of course.