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Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:16 pm

I live in Czech Republic, are we talking about Budweiser the bullshit American knockoff or the real stuff from Budvar?

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Tshern · Post by **Tshern** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:22 am

FrankTrollman wrote:I live in Czech Republic, are we talking about Budweiser the bullshit American knockoff or the real stuff from Budvar?

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Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:42 am

No, the knockoff stuff.

They're probably very different. I haven't tried the Czech stuff. I have however tried Czech beer.

Is it anything at all like other Czech/German beers in that it's amazing to drink, but has a horrible aftertaste, so that you have to keep drinking it?

Honestly though, I can count the amount of days that I'd like to have a beer, and they greatly outweight the amount of times that I go and get one; somewhere between 30 to 1, or 50 to 1. I'm not really sure why that is though. I'm even craving one right now that I thought about it, but it's now 1:41 and I need to be up in 3 1/2 hours.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:43 am

I'm an Australian, and I hate beer. The closest I can manage is... mind blank, that Irish stuff that looks and tastes a bit like Vegemite.

That being said, I can't remember the last time I had a drink. I just stopped enjoying it, my mouth also protested more even at a single strong drink. Once upon a time I could make a 750ml bottle of vodka disappear using a trick of reciprocation (it was drunk because of me, I was drunk because of it). Now, if I try to take a shot of it my throat practically closes up.

So when I did drink, it was always spirits, nothing else, and now... nothing. And I'm not really complaining.

But anyway, a large amount of Aussie beer does seem to be complete crap, where beer-drinkers will pour it down the drain. On the other hand, they'll prefer it to the American stuff, which some argue is "Water" and others argue is "Cat urine". So I suppose beer drinkers should head to Europe for their stuff.

I'm not sure how this relates to humour any more.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:53 am

I prefer slapstick humor, perhaps humorous mimery as well, but not much in the way of the Stooges. More like Marx Brothers and Bill Irwin.

Any kind of alcohol other than thick wheat or grain beers, Bud Light, Everclear, and red wine will do fine, no thanks to unpleasant physical reactions I get from those mentioned.

Koumei wrote:I'm an Australian, and I hate beer. The closest I can manage is... mind blank, that Irish stuff that looks and tastes a bit like Vegemite.

Vegemite: Irish for beer.
Guinness? Good shit but even more expensive now thanks to failures on the part of both Irish and American economies.

ckafrica · Post by **ckafrica** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:09 am

I'd just like to point out that the czech consulate in Ho Chi Minh city is a bar. Yes a bar. Best beer in town too.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:27 am

Guinness, that's the one.

And my preference for humour is cheesy puns, and the kind of humour you'll find in:
Quite Interesting
"A bit of Fry & Laurie"
Good News Week

Particularly the scathing insults Fry is known for.

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:28 am

+1 Aussie who hates beer. An accquired taste that I see no reason to accquire.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:31 am

E Gads.

I don't touch alcohol at all either.

I used to be pretty OK with it, never drank the stuff but wasn't overly alarmed by others drinking it beyond the more immediate potential threats to their health.

More recently I think I've decided I hate alcohol and the alcoholic culture and the next time someone tries the whole "But drinking is social!" routine on me they are likely to get an unexpected earful about exactly what I have come to think of that kind of society.

Anyway more proof of my theory that the internet attracts atypical Australians.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:16 pm

I hate the "Drinking is social!" argument. Drinking results in antisocial behaviour most of the time (shouting, starting fights, breaking shit). What those cockbags consider to be antisocial (not going and getting shitfaced with them) is merely unsocial.

And apparently, to get around the public smoking ban, more people are taking up snuff. I always thought snuff was cocaine, but there you go.

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:19 pm

Talisman wrote:
Judging__Eagle wrote:It's like beer, only the most bland are universally enjoyed, while recipes that focus on one ingredient more than the others tend to have more rabid fans and more cynical detrators.

Ex. Budweiser vs Alexander Kieth's India Pale Ale. I've found that every beer drinker that has tried both tends to hate one, but love the other.
I hate Budweiser and I hate pale ales in general (too hoppy).

So there!

Hmm, you're the first I've ever known so far in that case.

Did you mean bud or bud light though? I've never drank bud light, so I'm not sure what it's like.

Actually, I've never drank any light beer, so I'm not sure what they're like.

Aside from beer, other things that I can drink include:

vodka (absolut is preffered over say... smirnoff), whiskey (jack and i can drink wild turkey without going sand-mouthed), brandy, rum (really, bacardi gold); red wine, white wine. Other stuff that is alcohol mixed with other liquids (bailey's) is also good.

I can't stand tequila, zambuca or gin.

Tshern · Post by **Tshern** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:55 pm

Judging Eagle wrote:Is it anything at all like other Czech/German beers in that it's amazing to drink, but has a horrible aftertaste, so that you have to keep drinking it?

No, not really, but I think that's quite rare in Czech and German beers in general. At least for all I've tasted and I've tried plenty.

Koumei wrote:I hate the "Drinking is social!" argument. Drinking results in antisocial behaviour most of the time (shouting, starting fights, breaking shit). What those cockbags consider to be antisocial (not going and getting shitfaced with them) is merely unsocial.

In excess, it might result to that, but a few times a week (maybe twice or thrice) I go out with a few friends, we go to a bar, play a few rounds of pool and get some beer. Quite often we don't even break anything!

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:03 pm

Koumei wrote:I hate the "Drinking is social!" argument. Drinking results in antisocial behaviour most of the time (shouting, starting fights, breaking shit). What those cockbags consider to be antisocial (not going and getting shitfaced with them) is merely unsocial.

I'm a god damned frat boy and I don't get drunk more than once every other week. If you're getting wasted more often than that you have too little to do.

Tshern · Post by **Tshern** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:51 pm

A bad generalisation, one might just rank drinking higher up than other options.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:50 pm

Judging__Eagle wrote:Did you mean bud or bud light though? I've never drank bud light, so I'm not sure what it's like.

Actually, I've never drank any light beer, so I'm not sure what they're like.

It's like a diluted regular beer with sickening aftertaste. Smells like piss. You're not missing anything.
Corona and Rolling Rock (white trash drink of choice! find it scattered by the boxload after neighborhood drag races) is even worse than Bud Light, but there are others further down that scale.

Tequila is IMO one of the best but the sideeffects will render me discomforted for a day or two after. Not a hangover exactly, more like... fairies.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:15 pm

Corona is not worse than bud light. It's not good, but bud light is piss in a can.

smug · Post by **smug** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:36 pm

Big real ale fan, myself. Praise the Lord, I can get bottled Fuller's ESB again (and a place in town does a keg version of ESB, which is OK considering that the only place in the US I found that served it cask-conditioned stopped selling it a few years ago).

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:50 pm

Yeah, Corona is a high malt beer.

So, some people can easily hate it.

I actually don't mind drinking it at room temprature with freshly grilled steaks.

Also, according to AA, if you are getting drunk more than 3 times a month, you're an alcoholic.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:46 pm

If you ever get drunker than one or two standard drinks at a time you have a drinking problem.

From what I vaguely recall of the science behind it all the good buzz comes EARLY in the whole getting drunk shebang. Once you are "wasted" you are doing nothing but bad things to yourself physically and emotionally.

So yeah getting "wasted" ie binge drinking is a form of dangerous and stupid alcoholism and it makes no difference how often you do it.

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:39 pm

Judging__Eagle wrote:Yeah, Corona is a high malt beer.
Also, according to AA, if you are getting drunk more than 3 times a month, you're an alcoholic.

How drunk? How many drinks or what BAC do they consider standard for this outrageous accusation?

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:43 pm

I think that it's a personal judement call.

Do you consider yourself drunk in those instances?

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:51 pm

Since it takes about 3-4 beers to feel a buzz and I don't go more than that due to limitations of stomach volume, no. Not really drunk since IMO it's not excess.
Drunk until one urinates on random objects and vomits repeatedly is excess.

When it come to non-beer alcoholic drinks I might but since there's a backlash the next day it's not an indulgence one can entertain very often.
You have to time it right and all to allow a day for recovery, which pretty much leaves friday and saturday, and if those days are busy (or sunday morning) it's just not possible. For instance, never get truly drunk on a sunday if you have work the next morning, and whatnot.

Does AA consider a beer a day alcoholism? Because that seems closer to the definition out of sheer quantity consumed over the same time span (although I'd prefer that greatly over stupid American-style binge-ing, the drain on savings and IQ would be difficult to endure....)

Talisman · Post by **Talisman** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:58 pm

Judging__Eagle wrote:Hmm, you're the first I've ever known so far in that case.

Did you mean bud or bud light though? I've never drank bud light, so I'm not sure what it's like.

Both. Either. I've never drunk them because I can't stand the smell. I've tried pale ales and have discovered that I really dislike hoppy beers.

For me, the darker and maltier the better. Draft Guiness is good, but bottled can be pretty bad. I like heavy stouts, porters, and black ales, although some wheat beers are good as well. Just had a bottle of Old Engine Oil tonight...that's some dark, harsh stuff.

Oh, and hard cider. Love Woodchuck.

And I never get drunk (two drinks in a night is my maximum...just enough to get a buzz), but I'll have a beer anywhere from every day to every 3-4 days.

sigma999 wrote:I prefer slapstick humor, perhaps humorous mimery as well, but not much in the way of the Stooges. More like Marx Brothers and Bill Irwin.

Marx Brothers! Yes! I also have never understood the allure of the Stooges, yet find the Marx Brothers to be hilarious. Maybe it's because they have a balance of stupid (Chico), witty (Groucho) and zany (Harpo), while the Stooges have Stupid, Stupid and Stupid.

smug · Post by **smug** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:07 am

You can define alcoholic how you like, I guess, but if AA are saying 'drunk more than three times a month=alcoholic' for some relatively moderate version of what 'drunk' means and then also claiming that an alcoholic is an alcoholic forever, I am not convinced that makes a great deal of sense. I honestly think that over half of my fellow undergrads were getting drunk more than once a week and I don't think that most of those people are alcoholics today (nor were they back then), although some of them clearly did end up that way (and yet, at the time they weren't drinking particularly more than some of the others that didn't end up that way).

It seems to me that being an alcoholic is rooted more in the person than in the amount they may drink at some stage in their lives.

ckafrica · Post by **ckafrica** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:55 am

ubernoob wrote:Corona is not worse than bud light. It's not good, but bud light is piss in a can.

American beer is sex in a canoe. Fucking close to water.