It's Personal...

Count Arioch the 28th · Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:15 am

Have you considered taking a shit in her shoes?

Hicks · Post by **Hicks** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:02 am

I wouldn't say I have an Evil Twin flaw, because we are rather different looking. My flaw is ACTUALLY Red Tape, as literally any time I have to work with any institution it is a Kafkaesque nightmare of delays and misfiles on the institution's part.

Take my brother's DUI in California under my name, he actually admitted in court to the judge that I was totally unconnected to his crimes and that he was a dumb drunk who used my name when arrested. Like it is in the court record. And due to a clerical error even tho the court said to exonerate me and remove the DUI in my name.... they just didn't do that... and I only found out that they didn't when I applied for a Commercial Drivers Liscence and the state of Arkansas first said, "you already have a Liscence here but this picture isn't you" (it was my brother) and after that was taken care of, "nah. You got a DUI in california. No CDL 4 U." 6 years after my brother admitted in court and the court ordered to remove the DUI from my record.

When I went to manager training for Wal-Mart... I spent 2 months fighting the background company that said I was my brother. For 8 weeks I wasn't an official management trainee, I was just a person who showed up to class who wasn't technically allowed to be there. I made my own name tag because they couldn't print an official one. My brother called the Las Vegas Police Department and spoke to the arresting detective and I sent my fingerprints to the detective, and my trainer, the detective, my brother... everybody agreed that I was not arrested for drug possession in Las Vegas.... except the background company. The Friday before I was to take my management position, they finally approved me; after fighting tooth and nail every day for 8 weeks straight.

I did get actual True Love tho, and have been happily married to my best friend for 8 years.

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:56 pm

If you break your budget, you're never going to leave the house anyway. With the amount you save, she could Uber it every time and you'd still come out ahead. I'd tell her you plan on seeing it yourself and if you really like it, you want her to see it, too.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:30 pm

Well the cheaper place went contingent as it got a trio of all-cash offers before I could even see it, so this particular place is no longer a point of contention.

The more pressing issue now is figuring out how Count Arioch has telepathic contact with our cat.

MisterDee · Post by **MisterDee** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:12 pm

I have to say, if you can't agree on a maximum price, a location and a layout/setup for the house, maybe you should do a bit more talking before thinking about offers.

That said, multiple price drops means the owner/realtor didn't know the value of the house. Meaning the latest price might still be completely off.

erik · Post by **erik** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:51 pm

Ehhh, I dunno bout that. Often there are so many variables that you cannot hope to be exactly on the same page for any given house without seeing it and talking about that particular abode. You won’t find the perfect house that meets all your criteria or if you do then somebody just put in a cash offer over list for it just now. So you have to weigh pros and cons accordingly.

Best way to find a compromise is keep looking and talking about what ya see.

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:42 pm

You can always put in what you think is an affordable offer. Worst they can do is laugh at you and say no. Maybe they counter, and you get a good haggle on...

MisterDee · Post by **MisterDee** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:46 pm

My post probably came out more assholish than I wanted. But that's the gist of what I meant.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:01 pm

deaddmwalking wrote:You can always put in what you think is an affordable offer. Worst they can do is laugh at you and say no. Maybe they counter, and you get a good haggle on...

It has been the case that I have seen an owner dislike a buyer's offer so much that not only did she say no, but it was no with prejudice. She did not want to sell to that buyer, and was not interested in hearing other offers.

That being said, you sort of have to have the perfect storm of circumstances for that to happen, and I don't think that Josh is there. But it can happen.

nockermensch · Post by **nockermensch** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:24 pm

Maj wrote:It has been the case that I have seen an owner dislike a buyer's offer so much that not only did she say no, but it was no with prejudice. She did not want to sell to that buyer, and was not interested in hearing other offers.

One can totally make an offer low enough that it comes as an insult to the seller. It helps to know the expected price range and make an offer that's low but also sensible.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:11 pm

MisterDee wrote:I have to say, if you can't agree on a maximum price, a location and a layout/setup for the house, maybe you should do a bit more talking before thinking about offers.

That said, multiple price drops means the owner/realtor didn't know the value of the house. Meaning the latest price might still be completely off.

erik wrote: Ehhh, I dunno bout that. Often there are so many variables that you cannot hope to be exactly on the same page for any given house without seeing it and talking about that particular abode. You won’t find the perfect house that meets all your criteria or if you do then somebody just put in a cash offer over list for it just now. So you have to weigh pros and cons accordingly.

Best way to find a compromise is keep looking and talking about what ya see.

Well, yeah to both of these.

We're not quite ready to offer -- and that's why we haven't made any offers yet.

We have significant, but not insurmountable differences on how much to value location vs condition vs cost savings. We're close enough that if those other variables line up then we might make our first offer in as little as a week, but if they don't then we might hold off for as long as another couple months.

It was just a severe enough shock to me that I needed to vent when I found that "neighborhood" was such a dealbreaker to her for on a place within walking distance of our current rental.

MisterDee wrote: My post probably came out more assholish than I wanted. But that's the gist of what I meant.

And not by 'Den standards it didn't.

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:26 pm

Maj wrote:
deaddmwalking wrote:You can always put in what you think is an affordable offer. Worst they can do is laugh at you and say no. Maybe they counter, and you get a good haggle on...
It has been the case that I have seen an owner dislike a buyer's offer so much that not only did she say no, but it was no with prejudice. She did not want to sell to that buyer, and was not interested in hearing other offers.

That being said, you sort of have to have the perfect storm of circumstances for that to happen, and I don't think that Josh is there. But it can happen.

Yeah, but unless you have an existing social relationship with the seller, it doesn't hurt you for them to hate you. If you put in what you feel is a reasonable offer and they shut you down (as I expect might happen) you haven't actually LOST anything. On the other hand, if they say YES, you've scored a deal that seems pretty incredible.

It is true - if you submit a low bid, the seller might not entertain further offers FROM YOU. But given the status, that might actually be a positive. Josh gets to win points from the Missus by agreeing to her house choice; and he doesn't overspend if the seller agrees.

As an FYI, if your parents (or hers) are in a position to help, it is lucrative to receive a loan and then simply not pay it back. Loans do not count as income. This is Trump's favorite tactic and the only reason he has any money at all.

Edit - I am not a financial planner, nor am I qualified to give financial advice of this nature. You should probably check it out in detail considering your state/location to ensure that you are not going to get into trouble with the IRS [end standard disclaimer]

Double Edit - There's an article which is consistent with my understanding. Per the article, you have a lifelong limit of $1million in forgiven loans. I would expect that close relatives who are looking to help you out would qualify here.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:59 am

Like I said, you sort of have to have a perfect storm of conditions for this to be an issue, and I don't think they necessarily apply to Josh. But having been collateral damage in this sort of negotiation, I just want to caution against things that might incur the asshole tax.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:21 pm

... and a goofy Hanukkah, a crazy Kwanzaa, a somber Yule, a nude Saturnalia, a non-binary Life Day, and a happy belated Beethoven's birthday.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:41 pm

Yep Hans Gruber has fallen off of Nakatomi Plaza Tower, now it is christmas!

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:03 pm

Merry Everything, you guys!!

Thaluikhain · Post by **Thaluikhain** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:45 pm

Stupid laptop doing that thing again when I have to have the cord of the power supply at the right angle for it to work. Got a fairly new power supply, worked fine for a bit, worked fine except when at the wrong angle for a bit, now this, and from pat experience it'll get very temperamental...been few a few power supplies that way, but I think I'll have to get a new laptop soon, this one's getting on a bit.

Iduno · Post by **Iduno** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:45 pm

Thaluikhain wrote:Stupid laptop doing that thing again when I have to have the cord of the power supply at the right angle for it to work. Got a fairly new power supply, worked fine for a bit, worked fine except when at the wrong angle for a bit, now this, and from pat experience it'll get very temperamental...been few a few power supplies that way, but I think I'll have to get a new laptop soon, this one's getting on a bit.

Yeah, power connections on laptops are as bad for coming loose as usb ports on the front of desktops. It can maybe be fixed by soldering, but you'll lose about half of the screws that hold the laptop together if you're anything like me. They're not long enough to hold themselves in, and are partially glued.

Iduno · Post by **Iduno** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:53 pm

Happy New Year, Gaming Den. Hope everything worked out with your Holidays and family-wise.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:13 pm

Funny you should say that . .

Any of you lot know how to get dried blood out of carpet?

Iduno · Post by **Iduno** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:45 pm

Stahlseele wrote:Funny you should say that . .

Any of you lot know how to get dried blood out of carpet?

Problem is the cleaner they use usually turns it black. You could bleach it, but that's not great unless the carpet was supposed to be white-ish anyway.

deaddmwalking · Post by **deaddmwalking** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:58 pm

Stahlseele wrote:Funny you should say that . .

Any of you lot know how to get dried blood out of carpet?

I don't know if you can find it in Germany, but laundry stain remover should work. Not the big containers that work on a variety of stains, but the little bottles that are specific for a type of stain. They have them for wine, blood, coffee, fats, etc. Put some of water on it, a dab of that, then some hot water and dab it up with an absorbent cloth.

Or try This.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:19 pm

Thank you you two!

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:42 am

Never hot water on a blood stain. It makes it set. I've had luck with hydrogen peroxide, but it can take a little scrubbing. I have also had good success with laundry detergent with oxyclean in it. Similar principle to peroxide. (Dilute with water and apply with toothbrush.)

As always, test on inconspicuous area of carpet to check for color fastness. If you have to use a little more liquid than you expect, place a towel on the carpet and stand on it to absorb the liquid in order to dry. Good luck!

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:02 am

Or if you find the color an improvement then obtain a larger amount of blood and coat the carpet evenly.